• WallEx@feddit.de
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    11 months ago

    Where is the comparison to the solar panel? I’m comparing methods of propelling, you are comparing solar panels and?

    If you can use the energy more efficiently and choose not to it’s not sustainable (or at least not very smart)

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      11 months ago

      Because it is solar power ultimately powering it all. If you don’t care about the efficiency of that step, you don’t really care about all of the later steps. It is still green energy and still cheap.

      The problem with BEVs is that while it is efficient in one respect, it is insanely wasteful in others. As a result, it is an unsustainable idea and functionally just greenwashing.

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        11 months ago

        So it’s the same if you have to build 5 times as many solar panels to do the same thing? It’s just not.

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          11 months ago

          Now we’re in the “pro-BEV bullshit” zone. Batteries won’t magically solve all transportation needs, nor solve the energy storage requirements of the grid. Alternatives still have to exist anyways, and the total lifecycle efficiency of BEVs isn’t that special. In a lot of cases, avoiding excessive use of batteries will save you energy. So pursuing alternatives will not need radically more solar panels.

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              11 months ago

              If you can admit that, you can admit there can be superior options to BEVs.

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                11 months ago

                Admit what? That they aren’t perfect? Yeah sure, nothing is. But where is the better option?

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                  11 months ago

                  E-fuels or hydrogen made from green energy. With the latter you won’t even give up on the future being EVs. They are the actually sustainable forms of transportation that everyone can accept.

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                    11 months ago

                    … But they are way more inefficient then batteries, which is what I’ve been saying all this time.