Left is BOE, right is presumably Samsung
Samsung panel photo taken from here:
My LE Deck OLED has BOE screen which I confirmed through that firmware dump command. I don’t have any dead pixels or any issue with the screen, but I think this difference in su-pixel structure is VERY interesting.
There’s been some complaint about red/green fringes on text, but not everyone seems to see it equally well. I looked at mine, Even looking very closely to the point Im seeing individual pixels and the small gaps between the pixels, I just don’t see it.
If we zoom in and look at the text, this is in desktop mode in Chrome, we can see there is in fact no sub-pixel anti-aliasing, the font is made up of whole pixels.
BTW I think BOE layout is better than Samsung because every pixel is symmetrical and the gaps are evenly distributed. Where as the Samsung has alternating left/right leaning blue pixels, which creates a big gap every two pixels, and this can lead to a slightly more grainy look.
You can also see the slight blurring effect from the anti-glare screen I have on mine. The blur radius is smaller than these sub-pixels, it cannot reduce the sharpness of displayed images, but it can soften the appearance of individual pixels.
whats next? licking the screen?
And here I was thinking the BOE panel was worse, too bad I have a dead blue subpixel :(
hey /u/HardwareUnboxed, can you investigate this on Monitors Unboxed please?
yall really pixel peeping
But to be honest. As a person who is quite curious, I love to learn about these small differences, since it reveals further questions about the manufacturing and implications of the difference. Playing and analyzing the Steamdeck is fun in itself. There is also something similar going on with other devices. Also its nice to have an curious, informed user group.
subpixel peeping
This new game you all oled owners are currently playing looks kinda meh tbh
you didnt buy the dlc I’m assuming?
Seriously what in the hell. 🤣 This has gone too far.
Reminds me of TN vs IPS 3DSs
Wait do some 3DSs use IPS panels? I swear mine has TN.
Yes. And the holy grail is IPS top and bottom. More common is IPS top only.
Can you just buy new ips panels for them and swap them in?
My N3DS XL happens to be that. Now I just need to capture mod it at some point and it’ll be the ULTIMATE 3DS lol
Brick breaker is making a come back
These Arkanoid community level packs get weirder every year.
Terrifying game makes me happy I honestly went for the lcd Oled seems to have a lot of problems
This post isnt even talking about a problem, its talking about a difference.
lol I’ve probably spent more time on this game, than any Steam game so far.
hardware is more fun than software games.
FUCK SAMSUNG
Still not giving a shit what screen is in my OLED and just enjoying it.
Thanks for those photos. I’m not sure which I’d consider ‘better’ so I’ll have to take your word for it. HOWEVER…please confirm that I’m not going crazy. I swear text in the SteamOS is much blurrier on my normal OLED Deck compared to the LCD version. Has anyone else had the same thought?
The software have to account for the sub-pixel layout especially when rendering text. This is what ClearType does in Windows. If Valve have yet to optimize for the OLED decks, it happens.
imagine giving zero fucks about the display and just play games.
The BOE screen is the best one it seems as long as you get it without any issues.
My inner demons trying to get me to RMA my dead pixel BOE deck while posts like this are making me think I should just get over it and replace the display later if it breaks or gets burn in down the line.
It really does look incredible, and I have gotten super picky about display uniformity since the plague of uneven LCD TVs have been killing my home movie enjoyment. Found that Samsung with their QLED line has the least grey uniformity issues on their TVs these days and if I ended up with a steam deck that had uneven brightness or colors that was unable to be RMA’d I’d be way more bothered than with a couple dead pixels. Though… That being a choice needing to be made is upsetting itself.
/Rant
E: ignore me I’m just enjoying this deck too much and having paranoia about RMA luck.
i have a dead blue and dead red pixel. The blue is hardly noticable and can only really see it in testing with 100% blue and its just a sliver.
Red is extremely noticable and even if I didn’t look for dead pixels its right in middle and incredibly obvious, glows green, and looks like a pin hole in tons of scenes
It’s not. I owned an LE and the colors on the Samsung one were way better and brighter.
Glossies are gonna stay in denial and keep huffing their copium, no matter how much actual data you throw at them.
Anyone know if the 1TB uses BOE? I got a 512 with a Samsung panel, and the greys are grainy. I would like to return it and get a BOE panel.
Dude, it’s not even noticeable. Stop listening to the garbage in this subreddit. It’s all in your head now that ONE user made this comparison.
It’s noticeable even on phones with smaller screens and higher resolutions. This also didn’t appear yesterday, it’s an old problem with Samsung displays.
Only the LE has the BOE panel. The 1TB standard OLED will have a Samsung panel
Got it, thanks for letting me know. I suppose I should just be happy and stick with what I have. It’s a little grainy on greys but it’s not the end of the world and isn’t really noticeable in games so far.
No problem! If it’s not too bad I would keep it. The one I received is pretty bad so you could potentially do worse exchanging it. If you want to test it in a game you can download a demo of inside, that game uses the problematic grey right at the start menu.
This is sick thanks for sharing
That’s pretty cool to look at. So size-wise Samsung has a higher blue bias an a low green bias, whereas BOE has a fairly similar red/geren with some bias towards blue.
Human vision is more sensitive to green, so they probably calculated they needed a less bright/smaller area green subpixel to convey a similar performance to the other subpixels.
Call me crazy but the blue sub pixel on the BOE panel looks larger than the red and green sub pixels. This should be good for longevity since you won’t have to drive the blue as hard, and blue sub pixels seem to be the most likely to burn out or limit the useful life of a panel.
Driving them less hard/bright = longer lifetimes
Yeah, that’s how it works. Everywhere