Heard the regular oled mura effect is way worse compared to the LE oled. Anyone else experience this? Would it be worth returning and getting the LE? I find the grainyness to be very distracting. It’s the same as my oled switch and I was hoping this one would be better.
I have both the LE and 1TB deck right now and took some comparison shots with my crappy phone camera. Mura on the non LE Samsung panel is very pronounced. The BOE panel on my LE is very uniform and looks way better. My LE does have 3 dead pixels but I’ll take that over the ugly graininess on the Samsung panel. Here’s some comparison shots
I have the exact same problem as you, but i could swear it looks even worse than my psvita 1000, the only response i got from valve is “we don’t see it”, so I’m kind of disappointed, specially with the problems I’ve had the index too.
I had a really hard time capturing what it actually looks like in person with these picture but it’s pretty close to what I see. I sent the inside comparison shots to valve and they approved my return request without issues. If you’re still in the 14 day window you should be able to return for any reason.
I have had 2 switch OLEDs with Samsung panels and they have all been really grainy like this. I assume the majority of them are and even on Samsungs website they claim this is normal on AMOLED displays.
Idk why people are downvoting you just for sharing your experience, and even with evidence at that. Not cool!
With that said, what the fuck is going on there, man?
Now, I don’t own Inside, and the demo doesn’t want to launch on deck even via protonGE, so it’s hard for me to compare directly.
But, I did take some comparisons from the trailer on the store page, I mean, it’s certainly no beautiful BOE uniformity, but to my eye, it’s not even close to as bad as your comparisons? 🤔
(I tested on Limbo as well, but that game has a flickery effect going on that makes it bad for testing this kinda thing)
I don’t mind the downvotes I’m just trying to be helpful and people like to get mad. Im disappointed in both screen manufacturers. BOE with the dead pixels and Samsung with the bad uniformity. It’s very possible that I just got a really bad Samsung panel on the 1TB model. I noticed the very grainy menus as soon as I turned on the device. If your deck doesn’t look like mine I would definitely hold onto it because you know units like mine are out there now.
“If your deck doesn’t look like mine I would definitely hold onto it because you know units like mine are out there now.”
This is pretty much where I’m at. People have advised me to refund, and I put a support request in which I’m awaiting response on, but at the end of the day I literally have two units right in front of me and they are almost completely identical. Mine is actually bit better than my partner’s, so I already have something to lose :O
I didn’t notice the issue for a long time because it requires a set of conditions before it appears. So I believe many people just haven’t picked up on their panels unique handling of dark images yet.
I would be interested in comparing our panels again in a other context, as yours and that other commenters seem to be on some other level of grain. I’d like to just eliminate phone camera crappyness or lighting that’s affecting the comparison, and find a game / image we have in common. It’s just hard to do with Steamui and all the opacity layers and built-in colour bleed lol, probably easier to do on KDE.
I agree that QC seems like a sore spot with both manufacturers, it’s nothing new but at the same time I am so beyond sick of panel lotteries in monitors, TV screens, gaming devices, mobiles… I get that I’m giving off old man shouts at clouds energy here but it’s so exhausting.
It’s hard for me to say if there is any “grain” to my UI or if it’s just how the UI is (like, it has colour banding on the UI that isn’t a result of the screen, just weird transparency effects, it appears on my IPS monitor as well)
With my eyes about 3x closer than I would comfortably view the screen, I detect a slight grain on a level that almost smaller than a pixel - not sure if this is the UI itself, the OLED pixels struggling, or even just the matte coating on the screen!
It seems that your panel is fine. The way you describe your menus sounds a lot better than what I see. I would describe the grain in the menus as a coat of tiny green speckles that cover the entire screen and is noticeable at a comfortable viewing distance. I wish I had some equipment that could capture it but maybe some one else on this sub will be able too. I’m just trying to be informative because I know how frustrating this was when I discovered the green tint on my switch OLED. I know some phones with green tint and grain were actually able to improve with software updates as well.
Wow that’s bad why would valve even do that? That’s terrible business decision. Cuz that mura honestly makes dark games look worse then lcd in a lot of ways. I was playing cyberpunk last night and the mura and obvious blurriness made it hard to play.
people saying this is normal - why does it appear on some games and not in others? for example in elden ring, a dark cave looks fantastic, inky blacks on the unlit portions, while in lies of p the grain destroys any low light detail. on my other oled displays perfectly black screens in hdr are inky black, while my deck shows the awful grain. any chance this is a graphics driver or calibration issue?
i thought it was pretty widely reported they used a screen that was equivalent to the oled switch. (same suppliers and they didn’t opt for a custom screen) economically I get it, they aren’t selling as many steam decks as nintendo is with switches.