• hansl@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Some people unfortunately do not have access to good vegan options. That being said, people can reduce their consumption of red meat significantly and make an impact.

    Don’t let perfect be the enemy of good.

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      1 year ago

      vegan options? like produce, grains, and legumes? are you in a food desert yourself?
      the “vegan options” you’re referring to are at the supermarket, and they are the cheapest items in there.

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        1 year ago

        I have plenty of friends who are vegans. I also have a few who tried it and failed because it’s not a switch you just turn off.

        Giving the advice “just go vegan” is bad advice and counterproductive. There should be research into what it means and how to eat healthy vegan meals. You don’t just turn off the meat, which is what a lot of people assume they should do.

        As a matter of fact I’d give the advice “go vegetarian, keep the milk eggs and fish, and if you like it and want to go further look into replacing those with some good vegan options.” It should be a process. Unless you start buying Soylent (the product not the movie), but that’s disgusting.

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          Consuming meat doesn’t automatically make you have a balanced and nutrituous diet. If you cared about that, you should inform yourself even if your not vegan.

          Also “go vegetarian, keep the […] fish”, lmao.

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          I went vegan on a random Thursday a few years ago after learning about the ethical reality here, that harming animals for pleasure or convenience is unjustified.

          It didn’t happen all in one day (the learning that is), but I didn’t do any meal planning. Didn’t even order vegan food before I decided to go vegan. Next time I went to the store I only bought vegan things. Since then anytime I have the ability to buy vegan goods, I do (which has been 100% of the time because I live in the west in the 21st century).

          If you’re homeless in the middle of Palestine being bombed relentlessly by a genocidal state, yeah I’m not going to complain about you eating eggs that were given to you from a homeless shelter. If you’re rich enough to drive to the store and buy groceries yourself in the U.S or Europe, you have no excuse.

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          I love how this is downvotes but is simply the truth. Telling people, “just go vegan” is like telling a depressed person to “just be happy”.

          No. You cannot change the entire diet of someone by shaming them.

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      1 year ago

      Either you live in the west where you get vegan options right in the store.

      Or you don’t in which case meat isn’t naturalised as much and you have plenty of vegan dishes right from the get go.