• 5BC2E7@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    As a counter example there are fields like machine learning where there is a lot of “capitalist” innovation

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      1 year ago

      How is that a counter example? The same 3 - 5 corporations are still in control.

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        1 year ago

        They can and they do innovate regardless of how much you might dislike them.

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          1 year ago

          I mean, yeah. A broken clock is right twice a day.

          Which I know doesn’t exactly equate to the current situation, but do remember that the point of capitalism isn’t innovation: it’s earning the most amount of money.

          Innovation is just a happy little coincidence thanks to competition in a fair market.
          When AMD was down in the gutter, Intel was just fine making token “innovation” in the CPU market while mostly taking it easy on the RnD while raking it in. Something they, eventually, got gotten for by AMD and more recently Apple silicon. But now, let’s say, Intel was allowed to buy AMD… Maybe Apple still would’ve switched to their own designs eventually, but PC’s undoubtedly would still be stuck on 4, maybe 6 cores.

          Monopolies are the anthesis of innovation, and monopolies are what corporations will move towards without adequate regulation.

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            1 year ago

            I was responding to the claim that “capitalism cannot innovate “ i am aware that innovation generally is not the goal but that is not the point i am contesting.

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        1 year ago

        the claim is that American capitalism no longer innovates

        innovation is not going bankrupt and clearing the way for another company. control and innovation are not even remotely close.

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        Did someone manage to uninvent LLMs and the innovations that came shortly before like transformers? EDIT: ah i see that people are gatekeeping the innovations. so are attention networks also “barely useful”? if so why aren’t you guys improving upon it or creating another sham if it’s so meaningless and just smoke you should be able to get a billion in investments.