The Israel Defense Forces releases surveillance camera footage from Shifa Hospital showing Hamas terrorists bringing a Nepali and Thai citizen who were abducted from Israel on October 7 to the medical center.

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    Again people lose sight of the fact that regardless of hamas actions, that doesn’t justify the killing of thousands of kids and families that are taking shelter in the hospital.

    If anything, the medical staff and families are also hostages and they shouldn’t be killed either.

    People kept arguing about the tunnel and the hospital ignoring the genocidal killing of Palestinians.

    Tunnels or Hamas using the biggest and maybe only hospital Doesn’t justify the bombing of the hospital while people still getting treated from other bombing…

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      Let’s be accurate here. Thousands have died in Gaza as a result of this conflict, but Israel clearly did not kill thousands at Shifa Hospital.

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      Hamas surrenders, releases hostages and it’s done. But Hamas is the one pushing this war and they’re using the suffering of their own people to push propaganda - and people like yourself support their efforts.

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          As opposed to the heavy resistance Hamas is currently putting up?

          If Israel wanted a genocide they could easily accomplish it. They clearly do not. This entire line of argumentation is beyond stupid.

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          I mean, I read through what you posted and it literally never says Israel bombed hospitals.

          HRW just cites a Tweet by “WHO in occupied Palestine” that is very non-specific while sounding specific.

          The relevant bits from the Tweet used as the primary source by HRW:

          “We are horrified at the latest reports of attacks on and in the vicinity of Al-Shifa Hospital, Al-Rantisi Naser Pediatric Hospital, Al-Quds Hospital, and others in Gaza city and northern Gaza, killing many, including children.”

          “Over the past 36 days, WHO has recorded at least 137 attacks on health care in Gaza, resulting in 521 deaths and 686 injuries, including 16 deaths and 38 injuries of health workers on duty.”

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            If I thought I knew better from my seat in a chair what was going on in Gaza than the humanitarian organizations on the ground there then I would simply log off and touch grass.

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              I mean, when you are calling people liars because they don’t agree with you, especially when your own sources don’t support what you say, I’m pretty sure that’s a sign you need to log off and touch grass.

              Is it possible Israel has bombed hospitals in Gaza? Certainly.

              Did you provide proof? No.

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              Clearly the UNRWA and the doctors at MSF don’t know what they’re talking about. Only the IDF does.

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            Super cool how lying about hospitals not being bombed is “civil” but calling it out for the lie that it is somehow isn’t.

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              Attacking the contents of an article is absolutely allowed, attacking other users is absolutely NOT allowed.

              So in your comment:

              “Liar. https://www.hrw.org/news/2023/11/14/gaza-unlawful-israeli-hospital-strikes-worsen-health-crisis

              That’s fine. “Liar” is maybe a little strong, I personally would have allowed it, other mods may not have. Your mileage may vary.

              It was the personal attack against the other user AFTER that where you crossed the line and caused the comment to be removed.

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                I disagree that saying someone is ignorant or that I would STFU if I was that ignorant is a personal attack. I also do not see how that is somehow more objectionable than lying about bombed civilians.

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                    I haven’t received notifications for any of those other warnings as far as I can tell, the links in the log won’t actually load for me. I also stand by them and encourage everyone to check out my forbidden opinions. It’s hilarious that one of them is literally a single sentence of me asking a mod for clarification.

                    Btw, why is lying about murdered civilians fine but calling someone ignorant is beyond the pale?