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    14 years ago my wife hired me an Aston Martin DB9 for a weekend as it was my favourite car. Absolutely loved it. That said it wasn’t a car I’d like for every day use. It was a hard ride and the heat from the engine came into the cockpit. My legs felt like they were on fire.

    Supercars are usually great to play in but for day to day absolutely crap. I couldn’t take it to the shop as I’d worry about it getting marked. People get jealous and go out of their way to ding nice cars.

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    I think the whole thing is having the level of wealth where those vehicles are of no value or concerning cost.

    The merits of the car have absolutely nothing to do with it.

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    That’s a Lamborghini Huracán. Have you ever had the chance to drive one? It’s absolutely incredible, and if you’re really into driving I could totally understand spending your life trying to get it, or a similar car.

    Expensive watches would probably make more sense in this meme.

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        It’s probably down to what brings you joy in life. If laying on the beach, drinking cocktails is what give you happiness: yeah, don’t bother trying to buy a Ferrari 296, because it won’t be worth it.

        But if you’re a really hardcore car person, and absolutely love the thrill of driving a fast car that handles unbelievably well, cars like the Huracán totally live up to the lofty aspirations you give it. Sure, you’ll have a lot of fun in a Toyota GR-86 (even more if you’ve modified it), but there’s a reason the Nismo GT-R costs over five times the price. It’s phenomenal.

        All of this is moot if you don’t like cars, though. I think expensive watches are a waste of money, but I’d never say that to someone who (for whatever reason) likes them. To each their own, and all that jazz.

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          I fucking love cars. Some I can afford on an IT salary. Some I can’t. The Huracán is one. Or a Ferrari 250 GTO (maybe if I drop Netflix /s). I think you need to be a surgeon, business owner, high zoot lawyer, something like that-- like half a mil or more a year – to be thinking about a Huracán starting north of $212k. Or maybe I just don’t like to go into massive debt lol. Honestly I’d be ecstatic to own a restored 70-72 Firebird. Can’t really justify it, I don’t think.

          The idea that there’s people in the world for whom a Huracán is an impulse buy that wouldn’t substantially affect their wealth is kind of mind-blowing when many, many folks (in America) can only afford a clapped out shitbox. And probably billions can’t afford a rusted bicycle.

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          Material stuff doesn’t make one happy, it is nothing but a distraction.

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        Most Lamborghini owners aren’t spending their salary or working overtime.

        You only need to be in the top 5-10% of earners in the US to start to afford the cheaper super cars. They already own their home and are enjoying life.

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          They already own their home and are enjoying life.

          -by exploiting other’s labor and creating a bigger wealth disparity than has ever existed

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            Blah blah blah, I know anyone who makes more than 150k a year bougie and stealing from the poor. You ain’t going to make headway there with me

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              It’s not the amount of money it’s the method of acquisition. An engineer or independent contractor or something could make that kind of money and still not be considered bourgeoisie. (Though probably petit-bourgeoisie?)

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          Look up. That’s the point you missed

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            The meme’s not really about the car it’s about the ideology of the person in it and how common that “consoom your way to freedom” view is among certain males in particular. Cars are whatever and sometimes amazing machines, like yeah maybe people shouldn’t be able to buy million dollar vehicles while other people starve, but that goes way beyond a car and more like the whole structure of capitalist economy.

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            Whatever you say. I’m pretty sure you just don’t like the idea that middle class individuals can afford supercars and don’t have to sell their soul.

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              You only need to be in the top 5-10% of earners in the US to start to afford the cheaper super cars.

              I’m pretty sure you just don’t like the idea that middle class individuals can afford supercars

              Which is it? Can I be middle class and afford a supercar, or do I need to be upper class (being in the top 10% of earners) to be able to afford one? Because I’d love to hear an argument that “middle class” and “top 10%” are remotely the same that didn’t make me laugh in your face.

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                170k puts you in the to 10%

                If you really can’t do the math on how someone making 150 can make a cheap supercar when for them that’s on you. It’s clear you never once been to a meet or track day and are just making shit up as you go.

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              lol that’s a hellofalot of projection, but whatever helps you cope, bud.

    • banneryear1868@lemmy.worldOP
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      I did a track day with some hypercars once for a bachelor party and yeah they’re amazing machines, was a great way to try them out. I don’t think it was the Huracan but there was a Lamborghini, Ferrari, and a McLaren that we all got to take turns on.

      There’s always a commodified and manufactured “rich lifestyle” side with these luxury products, but I find the people genuinely in to the products aren’t flaunting them as much because that’s not why they enjoy them, and are actually more interested in sharing the product and experience with others. The ones I don’t get are things that are almost entirely meant to be “rich person thing,” especially where all the branding and marketing materials build that reputation into the product, like the only reason why you’d have it is to look like you’re rich. It’s more like “rich guy with cars and cool clothes” that is a super lame aspiration and basically makes you a boring person, like imitating what you are told is how a rich person lives and considering your likeness to that an achievement in itself. A lot of those guys are incredibly particular and narcissistic about how they look in front of other people, and get very upset and angry at others in their life when small things happen that they think make them look less perfect. A lot of times our economic system rewards this sort of behavior which is why a lot of rich guys are assholes.

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        Its like the difference between a Patek Philippe and a Hublot. The Patek is an incredible display of craftsmanship and stupendously expensive because it takes multiple highly skilled watchmakers like a year to make one. The Hublot is expensive because owning it is expensive and that makes it cool. There is no technological advantage it has on a watch that is half the price. No watch enthusiast would ever buy a Hublot.

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          Yeah like the skilled craftsman is not the problem in the world of luxury products. The idea that an individual could afford something like that while someone else starves is another matter, but I think we could still have these products and support the labor that goes in to them without the rich lifestyle buyer side of it. The public commissioning and ownership of luxury products is an interesting area of consideration.

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            I think in a communist society, it might make sense to reward special personal achievements and such with goods like that, like awarding every college graduate a certain thing (jewlery etc) depending on their field of study. It might also make sense to allow for an exchange of such goods through a special market

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              Yeah regulated markets are a tool. China’s “keep the big free the small” approach has a lot of positives, the way bulk energy markets are designed and regulated is another model that’s used in practice, Allende’s Cybersyn is interesting as well. Even if a government was to commission a watch or something, the idea is that will increase in value, similar to art commissioning or even architects to design buildings, it’s not really an “expense” in that the value isn’t retained and likely increases. You’d want to make sure your craftspeople are constantly producing because that’s added value in to the economy. The aesthetics of the products themselves might take on a whole other quality if the craftsperson isn’t bound to certain client’s preferences.

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      They’re fantastic yes. I’m not gonna jump for some capitalist swine in hopes that i can buy one some day.

      I bought a Honda S2000 instead.

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      My 20 year old Honda element can actually make it to the trailhead at the top of a shitty mountain road

      A sports car doesn’t do anything I’d find worthwhile, but go off king

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      Why would I want a Lamborghini? Evwn if I could afford it why would I waste the money on it. Id much rather buy a shitty car like a Yugo or a Pinto and modify it into an abomination against sanity. Why would I? Because it’d be fun. Or id just buy a tank.

      Also that’s not the point, people are criticizing Tate for being a vapid dipshit who bought one because of the pricetag not because he enjoys it. If ya enjoy taking a lambo onto a track fucken A good for you. But id much rather take a Frankensteins monster of a car offroading and probably snap the suspension… again.

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            If you see two (or more) emoji in comments like that, it means your client/browser/phone/computer doesn’t support combined emoji (or at least not that particular combination)

            The one in the comment you replied to seems to be row 233, man shrugging.

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              Thanks. Its also working now?

              This is what I get for prefering older tech. Fun fact it was showing woman shugging with the symbol for man next to it and I just kinda assumed it was a euphemism.