Nepal decides to ban TikTok::A Cabinet meeting on Monday took the decision to ban the social media app.

  • @toothbrush@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    666 months ago

    in nepal posting in “vulgar” language is also forbidden by law, as is stuff like stating that you are poly on social media, so them passing another overreaching censorship law is no surprise.

    • @nepali
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      26 months ago

      um… where did you get that information?

      • @unexpectedteapot
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        206 months ago

        How about you read the one link you are commenting on before asking for another? It is in the article.

        • @personalthought381@lemm.ee
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          106 months ago

          It is in the article.

          I read both articles and nowhere does it say “stating that you are poly on social media” is banned. Pretty generic stuff. See for yourself. From the article -

          Likewise, people should not post any text, audio, video or picture that spreads hatred against any gender, community, caste, religion, profession, or people from any particular group.

          Also banned are actions like distorting a picture, taking photos of private affairs and publishing them without permission.

          Similarly, posting vulgar words, pictures, videos, audios, animations, contents promoting paedophilia, sexual exploitation, prostitution, use and trade of narcotic substances, gambling, spreading fake news, distorted information, cyber bullying and terrorism-related contents are prohibited.

          Don’t get me wrong, I think that “posting vulgar words” is purposefully vague and is most likely intended to be a catch all, but that’s not the point. The point is this is not some “overarching censorship” like you make it out to be. Most platforms and governments have policies similar to this. Unless… you have specific examples of Nepal banning people for being “poly on social media”.

          In other news, Nepal fares better than Qatar, Greece, Singapore and the UAE according to the World Press Freedom Index.

          • @toothbrush@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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            I got my information from the article about the new social media rules within that article here:

            https://kathmandupost.com/national/2023/11/10/cabinet-passes-rules-to-regulate-social-media

            the relevant passage:

            The new rule also bars any post promoting wrong activities such as child labour, human trafficking, child marriage or polygamy.

            so for nepal human trafficking and polygamy is in the same category of “wrong activities”.

            What do you mean its not the point? its literally a crime to post “vulgar” language, like you said a catch all term that they can use to censor anything they deem “vulgar”. How is this not a law designed to censor?

            For clarity, I am not the person you replied to, I wrote the comment above. Imo Usernames are a bit hard to see on some frontends!

            • @UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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              so for nepal human trafficking and polygamy is in the same category of “wrong activities”.

              There’s a substantive degree of overlap, particularly in parts of the world where young women are sold by desperate parents and criminal cartels for the pleasure of old perverts. This isn’t Sam Bankman Fried and three if his closest money launderers in a sex pile. This is cloaking sex trafficking under the cover of marriage.

              • @toothbrush@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                The law did not ban polyamory, it is already illegal in nepal, so there is no “cover of marriage” there. It banned posting pro poly posts online. That is pretty harsh. Just because criminals use it does not mean stating your opinion had to be banned!

                The only explanation I can come up with is that they just banned a bunch of stuff the legislators deemed immoral. I dont know enough about nepal to say that with any certainty, but my hunch is that pro-poly messaging may have been banned because of the muslim minority.

        • @nepali
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          26 months ago

          I read the article. The article doesn’t mention “vulgar language being illegal”. I’m from Nepal and I’m going to ask where people come up with made up scenarios.

    • @Infinity13@lemmy.world
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      16 months ago

      Its about time to ban TikTok. Look what kind of youth have become. Kids doing crazy things for the “fame” of the internet - beating other kids to death, stealing cars, doing drugs, and all minds of illegal stuff just for fun and have lots of “likes”. My brother spends hours a day on TikTok he cant keep focused for a long time anymore. I dont trust him anymore because he forgets things all the time now. He is loosing lots of money and now in a huge debts because he was buying things too expensive for him just to upload pics and videos to be “recognised” n stuff… You can say that its my brothers fault, but TikTok and social media is dragging him more than anything. And it happens for a lot of people

  • @terminhell@lemmy.world
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    146 months ago

    I’ve had it, a long with X and everything meta/Facebook banned on my home network for a while now. It’s been great.

    • @KrummsHairyBalls@lemmy.ca
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      -176 months ago

      Why? It’s no different than any western social media. In fact, in my experience, western media tries to push their agendas on me, while my Tiktok is just full of random tech videos and cats.

      • @thisisnotgoingwell@programming.dev
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        46 months ago

        That’s usually true at first, showing users content they like is gratifying to the user, but satisfied users don’t stay on the app. So for example, I like motorcycles, humor, tech, dog content, and poker. Tik Tok could show me relevant videos and I’d maybe browse for a few minutes and then go do something else. But the algorithm kind of slows down the dopamine hits/relevant videos and starts inserting more content that is depressing/irrelevant… The algorithm uses the same logic that makes gambling so addictive, they’ll make you feel like the dopamine hit is just around the corner, except it takes a bit longer to get there every time. “One more hand” …>

        Facebook was at its worst in 2014-2018 or so. The algorithm became incredibly rage-inducing and pervasive. Facebook would intentionally show you content that you dislike(like right-wing bullshit) and if the more you interacted with it(especially if it was dislike) facebook would show you more and more of that. I was getting bombarded by extremism ideologies on Facebook and at the time I didn’t understand that this was the algorithm.

        The Internet is no longer just “likes cat video, give more cat videos”, and pushing that notion is uneducated. Tik Tok is the worst of all the apps by far, but all of the social media companies use sophisticated algorithms that intentionally fuck with you just to get you addicted to their apps.

        I think more people need to be informed on how these algorithms work and why they are so dangerous, especially to kids. Speaking of kids, there’s a lot of content on TikTok which sexualizes underage teens. Also, I would block literally every thirst trap on TikTok that showed up in my feed, because that is simply the last thing I want to see on TikTok, yet the algorithm is so aggressive, it will continue to push content that you dislike so you are unsatisfied for longer.

        I’ve deleted Tik Tok a few times in the past but I haven’t used it in about 2 years or so. Imagine how little the average person in this country knows about these algorithms.

        • @KrummsHairyBalls@lemmy.ca
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          36 months ago

          The Internet is no longer just “likes cat video, give more cat videos”, and pushing that notion is uneducated. Tik Tok is the worst of all the apps by far, but all of the social media companies use sophisticated algorithms that intentionally fuck with you just to get you addicted to their apps.

          You guys really need to take a chill pill. You guys are such conspiracy theorists.

          My Tiktok is just cat videos. I literally never get fed anything else. Cat, technology, and science.

          I’m not sure how they are fucking with me.

          I guess you think showing me content is fucking with me, because you’re only used to the 30K active users on Lemmy, and the minimal amount of content posted here per day, lmao.

          Truly, though, this community is extremely toxic. You’re all hating on me, downvoting me, because Tiktok is feeding me cat videos.

          • @thisisnotgoingwell@programming.dev
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            46 months ago

            I don’t see how I was toxic in any way. Besides, this isn’t reddit. There is no karma, so if people downvote you, who cares? That just means that people think you’re wrong.

            Here’s a thought, let’s say you’re perfectly satisfied with how your content delivery/algorithm. You’re a responsible adult who can manage your screen time. Should TikTok be doing more to protect youth(those most vulnerable) from predatory content? There’s been quite a few studies now and even states suing TikTok for their effects on youth’s mental health.

            You’re making a few assumptions about me(implying I’m living under a rock or something)… Unfortunately I spend a large part of my day on the computer due to work and I grew up with the internet. So I try to spend what free time I have reading/studying, and maybe consume a bit of streaming in a day.

            If you knew the horrible content that most kids are being served now, it would make your head roll. I don’t let my kid watch YouTube but his cousins are all crazed on tiktok content. Look up skibidi toilet.

            • @KrummsHairyBalls@lemmy.ca
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              -16 months ago

              besides, this isn’t reddit. There is no karma, so if people downvote you, who cares? That just means that people think you’re wrong.

              The irony.

  • @WhyDoesntThisThingWork@lemmy.world
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    56 months ago

    Lol. I remember when Trump said he was going to ban it and everyone was like nooooo. This is so concerning for free speech. Now that it’s not Trump doing it, everyone says: Great, everyone should ban it.

    • @moitoi@feddit.de
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      46 months ago

      The motivations to van the app matter. Trump wanted to ban it to censure the “wokes”. Nepal bans it to prevent the spread of hate speach.

      Social media and mostly the mainstream ones became an issue for democracy. These private companies must moderate before publishing. We must take them to account for what is on their platforms. Social medias are responsible for what is on them at the same level as the people posting it. If they don’t want to comply, it’s a ban.

  • @interceder270@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    Fearmongering worked. Let’s get more nations to follow suit so we can have an American company dominate short-form video formats instead of a Chinese one.

    • Sibbo
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      96 months ago

      Nah, let’s go with something Latin American this time. There are probably some countries which are waiting their turn. And which are not competing for world domination.

  • @kozy138@lemm.ee
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    6 months ago

    It incentivises stupidity, and controversial opinions, which gets more views and makes the “influencer” money.

  • Historical_General
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    Will they ban Facebook which facilitated a genocide?

    edit: there are many a genocide lover on lemmy sadly.

    • YⓄ乙
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      -76 months ago

      I’ll let them know to consult with you first before making these decisions.