He showed his true face with the rescue sub/“pedo guy” fiasco. Couple that with the constantly moving goalposts on things like the “under-$35k Model 3” and that godawful stainless steel doorstop, and I noped out of wanting a Tesla well before Twitter broke the man. I’d rather have a mildly used Polestar 2.
No. Between the shitty build quality, the idiotic upgrade pricing schemes, and the non-concern about unleashing “self driving” on the general public, there is no way I’d be willing to buy a Tesla.
No. Musk is a tool, and initially I was on the Tesla/Space X bandwagon (but not a fan of, I remember the hyperloop lies, goalpost moving, etc) but once I got into a Tesla and saw the build quality, for the price, no fucking way. Dash panels that aren’t flush, body panels off kilt. No. Component pieces that feel like they came selfnegotiated before stopping at the bureaucrats penny pinching emporium before assembly.
I can build 3 electric cars on some, idk, 90s civic frames with body panels from, let’s say, old 90s Saturn’s for that price that’ll all fit together better than any Tesla.
It wouldn’t for me. This isn’t just about Elon, but how his businesses have been run.
There are too many compromises in Teslas design, how they treat workers makes the entire corporation complicit, there’s no way I want to put my life in their care.
If Elon wasn’t CEO of Tesla, how long do you think it would be before African American workers are treated correctly, and for whoever is in charge to fix up the labor-union issues in Sweden?
We’re no longer at the point where Elon is pulling all the strings. The company is on autopilot, especially as it has become obvious that Elon’s focus the past few months has been at Twitter instead of Tesla. I think what we’re seeing here is truly representative of Tesla’s culture.
It depends. Would they be willing to cool it on the spurious claims and broken promises? Will their vehicles be more well-built, or at least will they be priced to match their quality? Will they be less garbage an employer?
Right now, everything they do is a reflection of Musk, and if they can separate themselves from him, not just from having him as their public face, but in every way, maybe I’d give them a look, if only because they still have the experience in the tech. Then again, with their EVs, they can do the E part, but they’re pretty middling with the V, so maybe not, after all. There are plenty of other options out there.
He showed his true face with the rescue sub/“pedo guy” fiasco. Couple that with the constantly moving goalposts on things like the “under-$35k Model 3” and that godawful stainless steel doorstop, and I noped out of wanting a Tesla well before Twitter broke the man. I’d rather have a mildly used Polestar 2.
I’m interested if people would change their answer if Elon was no longer CEO of Tesla.
No. Between the shitty build quality, the idiotic upgrade pricing schemes, and the non-concern about unleashing “self driving” on the general public, there is no way I’d be willing to buy a Tesla.
No. Musk is a tool, and initially I was on the Tesla/Space X bandwagon (but not a fan of, I remember the hyperloop lies, goalpost moving, etc) but once I got into a Tesla and saw the build quality, for the price, no fucking way. Dash panels that aren’t flush, body panels off kilt. No. Component pieces that feel like they came selfnegotiated before stopping at the bureaucrats penny pinching emporium before assembly.
I can build 3 electric cars on some, idk, 90s civic frames with body panels from, let’s say, old 90s Saturn’s for that price that’ll all fit together better than any Tesla.
It wouldn’t for me. This isn’t just about Elon, but how his businesses have been run.
There are too many compromises in Teslas design, how they treat workers makes the entire corporation complicit, there’s no way I want to put my life in their care.
If Elon wasn’t CEO of Tesla, how long do you think it would be before African American workers are treated correctly, and for whoever is in charge to fix up the labor-union issues in Sweden?
We’re no longer at the point where Elon is pulling all the strings. The company is on autopilot, especially as it has become obvious that Elon’s focus the past few months has been at Twitter instead of Tesla. I think what we’re seeing here is truly representative of Tesla’s culture.
It depends. Would they be willing to cool it on the spurious claims and broken promises? Will their vehicles be more well-built, or at least will they be priced to match their quality? Will they be less garbage an employer?
Right now, everything they do is a reflection of Musk, and if they can separate themselves from him, not just from having him as their public face, but in every way, maybe I’d give them a look, if only because they still have the experience in the tech. Then again, with their EVs, they can do the E part, but they’re pretty middling with the V, so maybe not, after all. There are plenty of other options out there.
You mean like he’s no longer the CEO of Twitter? No, I don’t think a title shuffle will make a difference for me.