I’m searching for boots similar to these but vegan for obvious reasons. I love boots but haven’t had them for years because I couldn’t find any cool-looking.

    • douglasg14b@lemmy.world
      English
      112·
      8 months ago

      I mean sure, that’s your choice, but using intentionally extreme, almost misappropriated, verbiage is a bit much no?

      Ripping the skin off implies living when it occurs, and “pets” is largely fabricated for shock effect (as is the term “ripping”). It’s quite cold & “surgical” compared to the image you’re painting of my dog having their skin ripped.

      To be clear, I’m not anti vegan or anything, nothing here has implied that, I’m just calling out the verbiage for what it is.

      • Pablo@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
        14·
        8 months ago

        It is indeed intentionally extreme as it is extreme to me that this occurs. I’ve literally seen it in videos on youtube. It’s not too exaggerated therefore as this happened in the past. Of course I can’t prove that’s the case for every single piece of leather and that’s also not the case. I’m pretty sure more than half of it is not from living dogs, but I’ve seen it happening and that’s why i don’t want to have real-leather on my foot unknowingly if it’s from a dead animal or not. And even if it’s from a dead animal it’s not the right choice for me when there are alternatives that don’t include animal skin. Does that make sense?

        • Jarix@lemmy.world
          English
          32·
          8 months ago

          So your okay with using plastics in place of real leather because you enjoy the aesthetic and are willing to use a substance that is known to contaminate and harm the life you hold in such high regard and plants you eat in place of those animals.

          I wonder if there is a vegan leather shoe company. Only leather from animals that lived humanely and died of actual natural end of life causes.

          • Jarix@lemmy.world
            English
            3·
            8 months ago

            Oh another user commented about Mylo Leather. Created from mushrooms. Thats neat

            • Eevoltic@lemmy.dbzer0.comMEnglish
              1·
              8 months ago

              They commented below about finding about the mushroom leather. But if people think that it’s going out of your way buying plastic boots vs not doing that they might get confused. Discussing the harm certain materials can cause for the environment, and ultimately the animals that reside in it, is good, but I’m sick of it being bought up as a ‘gotcha’ moment for veganism.

          • Pablo@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
            12·
            8 months ago

            Plastic is a recyclable material which therefore aligns with sustainability goals. Indeed some companies let customers send in their old shoes so they can be up-cycled. Plastic is a very durable material too! It has a lower impact on the environment compared to animal-based products. Choosing plastic over animal skin also aligns with ethical considerations, as it avoids contributing to the exploitation and suffering of animals for fashion and apparel.

            Btw many vegan leather options are made from sustainable and eco-friendly materials, including plant-based alternatives like pineapple leaves, apple peels, and mushrooms. These alternatives often have a significantly lower environmental impact compared to traditional leather production, which is known for its heavy use of resources and harmful effects on the environment.

            Moreover, the idea of using leather from animals that have lived humanely and died naturally is not a widespread practice in the fashion industry. The majority of leather comes from animals that are raised and slaughtered specifically for their skin, which goes against the principles of veganism that prioritize the well-being and ethical treatment of all animals.

              • Eevoltic@lemmy.dbzer0.comMEnglish
                3·
                8 months ago

                Um my comment wasn’t meant to imply that you needed to remove the old one / edit it, but yeh it looks better? I’ll repost what I said in the reply as I can’t find anymore.

                Discussing the harm certain materials can cause for the environment, and ultimately the animals that reside in it, is good, but I’m sick of it being bought up as a ‘gotcha’ moment for veganism.

                • My comment I can’t see anymore

                I’m just going to state this before anyone jumps in and claims leather as a material is more “eco-friendly” than plastics. The process of getting the leather is very polluting to the environment as the entire animal agricultural industry is. The leather doesn’t magically appear one day at the store, it comes from exploiting animals and the environment. Plastics are also bad for the environment and even human health. So, we should strive for an alternative that is neither of those, which we seem to have found.

                I think the main point about the plastic is it breaking up into smaller bits and polluting the environment, but I’m not an expert on that.