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      *Undiagnosed & untreated ADHD

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    Being smart is largely about being able to process information, not retain it. Retaining it is being educated.

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      Also a bit of knowing about a lot of topics but not well enough to explain any of them

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      Not entirely. In case of ADHD, the memory is highly choosy in what to retain. Which has genetical causes.

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        Right. My husband is intelligent, able to process information well. However, he also has ADHD and can’t remember things for shit. He’s also not highly educated, though, so not the best example. Still, you can be intelligent without being able to retain information is the overall point.

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    Clever.

    They’re trying to make a joke, but that’s the word for someone who is capable in unknown situations.

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      That’s a clever answer!

      …or maybe a smart answer. Depends if you’ve seen the question before.

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    I think in elementary school they refer to that as “bright.”

    “Oh little Billy is one of the brightest students.”

    Fast forward, little Billy graduated college, moved to Philly, works as a barista, knows the complete lore of 40k but doesn’t use their degree in any meaningful way.

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        Intelligence represents how clever you are and what you know, basically how quick your mind is at improvising solutions.

        Wisdom is your awareness of your surroundings as well as how much of that you retain and can access on demand without further stimulation.

        Int 18 Wis 8 would be like a professor of advances sciences or engineering (doesn’t matter what field) who can give indepth breakdowns of things in their field work and expected outcomes of things related to that field. But that same professor can never remember where they put their glasses, lab notes, the homework or remember anyone’s name without serious attempts to grill it into their long term memory.

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          I can’t believe nobody’s said this yet:

          Intelligence is knowing that tomato is a fruit.
          Wisdom is knowing not to put it in a fruit salad.

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            Idiot Savant would be one way of describing them, though a rather slow detective might be another. They never got good grades in high school and not really quick on their feet. He doesn’t know much of anything but he notices everything and might just be inquisitive enough to ask people who seem knowledgeable about it. And he never forgets a detail, he still remembers that time you told him four years ago you got stung by a bee or about how your dog keeps making a mess on the back step.

            When our absent minded professor is killed by a jealous rival chemist, our idiot detective doesn’t understand a single word of how the suspicious chemist goes on how the deceased was a hack and never deserved his PhD, let alone tenure, our simple detective still notices all the quirks and tells of the chemist to know he’s lying and emotionally invested in the fate of our late professor. He’s also the one to find a bunch of cleaners in the trash by the custodial closet, and the only one to give them mind because the bottles in the closet are half full and have wear marks like they only get used a few times a week, while the ones in the trash seem almost brand new save for their empty contents. He also finds a number of recently used implements in the chemistry lab that hadn’t been properly cleaned. He may not have the knowledge to piece together that these otherwise inert chemicals can be mixed and prepared in a specific way to make a fast acting toxin, but he does know the Chemist is lying when he claims he used them to clean up his lab and work area, because said lab and area are filthy and do not smell of cleaners, but the beakers he found do.

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              This have been by far the best descriptions of Wis vs Int I have ever gotten, thank you. I really feel like I actually understand them now.

              I have always understood the. Int is tomato is a fruit, Wis is don’t put it in a fruit salad description, but now I actually understand the difference between them.

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        I dont think so. Intelligence is aptitude, capability, or skill. Wisdom is knowledge and experience, etc. So op is right, i believe

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          Intelligence is knowledgeable and processing speed. Wisdom is awareness and memory.

          You remember the store had 4 apples on the shelf, but you know 2 + 2 is 4.

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          Maybe in some colloquial definitions, but following the DnD conventions (which is what I assume op was talking about), Intelligence refers to knowledge, while Wisdom refers to perception, introspection, and metacognition (knowing that you know or don’t know something) . So I think high Wis (you are quick on perceiving things) but low Int (not being able to remember what you know) would apply.

          It’s not a science, though. This is just my personal interpretation.

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      Or dunning Kruger depending on how accurate the first sentence actually is lol