• orrk@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    i wanna bet it’s going to be “but we fought the Nazis” or some ML revolution shit that has never worked

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        1 year ago

        the Russian and Cuban systems primarily changed due to modernization and not anything the system did (don’t make the liberal mistake of assuming the advances of modernity are inherent to the system at the time), but China actually got Worse until it “liberalized” its markets and started pulling foreign capital investment

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            1 year ago

            it’s important to look at these kinds of numbers in context, the average life expectancy for the vast majority of Mao’s rule was around 30, only going up to 50-60 in the last few years, still lagging behind even the farther east soviet provinces

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                1 year ago

                I mean ya, but it’s not that impressive, at that point it basically meant that the Chinese government stopped doing stuff that actively caused early death towards the very end of Mao’s life

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        1 year ago

        Yes, but transforming power structures doesn’t equate to killing opponents. It is neither sufficient nor necessary. The success of some revolutions shouldn’t be attributed to lethal violence.