That’s great, but to be fair some of them are “technically playable” but a real pain in the ass to play on the steam deck. The definition of “playable” is really not what you’d expect.
EDIT: I don’t understand why I’m getting downvoted so much… I own a steam deck and love it, and my comment is on topic…
I’m literally the only top comment on the thread, are you guys trying to incentivize people not to engage on lemmy’s post ?
Factorio for exemple is marked “great on deck” I tried to play it, it’s honestly unplayable, I love the game, I love the steam deck, but that game is not “great on the steam deck”. And it is not the only game in this category.
Factorio runs great on the deck, it’s not a game I want to play with a controller though, but the game does support controller input and you can always plug in a mouse and keyboard. Saying that Factorio doesn’t work on the deck it’s like saying it doesn’t work on th switch because you don’t like the control scheme.
We agree. That’s exactly what I said in my first comment, factorio is “technically playable”. I never said anything about games not “working”.
You can plug kb, mouse and also plug-in a bigger screen on the deck, but that’s not what people instinctively think about when they hear “great on deck”
But then you get into a subjective realm, everyone has opinions and preferences, some people are used to controllers and prefer playing games like that. To try to illustrate let’s do it the other way around: should we say that dead cells shouldn’t be marked as playable on PC because controller is so much better for it? Or do you agree that 1. Even though it’s not great you can play it on KB/M so it should be listed as playable and 2. You can plug a controller on the PC so saying it’s not great on PC because you need to plug a peripheral is a moot point.
Scratching my head on this one – I actually prefer Factorio on the Deck vs the desktop. What about it makes it bad on the Deck? You know there’s a UI slider, right?
Really?? that’s interesting (and surprising for me), I guess I must be really bad with the trackpad as a mouse or something, also it says to click on “y” instead of “r2” to click which I thought was really impractical. Then I didn’t try the hardest to make it usable for me, after a couple minutes I just said “fuck it, I can’t play like that” and played something else.
It sounds like you’re using the controller scheme that Factorio added. It’s really designed for a standalone controller.
It works alright, but if you switch (in Steam controller configurator) to standard Deck KBM layout, then R2 is click and right trackpad is mouse. Set Factorio to KBM as well and it won’t say Y anymore.
That’s true, I played many games that were great on the deck but marked as unverified. But that’s exactly my point you can’t really know how many games are actualy playable. When on the deck there is a tab called “great on deck” with games suposedly great to be played on the deck, but in reality these are games that theoretically works… They don’t test for the quality of the experience of playing them on the deck as oposed to another platform.
If i had to guess at why the downvotes, I’d say there’s a failure of comprehension here.
“Great on Deck” means you can play them well on the Steam Deck with few hiccups (damn near what you get if you ran it on Windows, basically). No more, no less. Doesn’t indicate that the game would feel good to play with a controller, but you CAN play it regardless. I don’t have a Deck, but yeah there’s a couple of games in my library that I look at the Community Controller Layouts and go “nah, that looks like a nightmare to use. I’m just gonna not be lazy and KB&M it”. I’m gonna assume doing the opposite on The Deck is…not impossible, but very impractical. Also gonna assume this is your gripe VS what people are likely taking from your sentence (“it says they’re playable, but they’re not”)
That’s great, but to be fair some of them are “technically playable” but a real pain in the ass to play on the steam deck. The definition of “playable” is really not what you’d expect.
EDIT: I don’t understand why I’m getting downvoted so much… I own a steam deck and love it, and my comment is on topic… I’m literally the only top comment on the thread, are you guys trying to incentivize people not to engage on lemmy’s post ?
But also there are a lot of games that work perfectly and are not tested. Can you give an example of game that is marked as playable but it’s not?
Factorio for exemple is marked “great on deck” I tried to play it, it’s honestly unplayable, I love the game, I love the steam deck, but that game is not “great on the steam deck”. And it is not the only game in this category.
Factorio runs great on the deck, it’s not a game I want to play with a controller though, but the game does support controller input and you can always plug in a mouse and keyboard. Saying that Factorio doesn’t work on the deck it’s like saying it doesn’t work on th switch because you don’t like the control scheme.
We agree. That’s exactly what I said in my first comment, factorio is “technically playable”. I never said anything about games not “working”.
You can plug kb, mouse and also plug-in a bigger screen on the deck, but that’s not what people instinctively think about when they hear “great on deck”
But then you get into a subjective realm, everyone has opinions and preferences, some people are used to controllers and prefer playing games like that. To try to illustrate let’s do it the other way around: should we say that dead cells shouldn’t be marked as playable on PC because controller is so much better for it? Or do you agree that 1. Even though it’s not great you can play it on KB/M so it should be listed as playable and 2. You can plug a controller on the PC so saying it’s not great on PC because you need to plug a peripheral is a moot point.
Scratching my head on this one – I actually prefer Factorio on the Deck vs the desktop. What about it makes it bad on the Deck? You know there’s a UI slider, right?
For controls, simply set right trackpad to mouse.
Really?? that’s interesting (and surprising for me), I guess I must be really bad with the trackpad as a mouse or something, also it says to click on “y” instead of “r2” to click which I thought was really impractical. Then I didn’t try the hardest to make it usable for me, after a couple minutes I just said “fuck it, I can’t play like that” and played something else.
It sounds like you’re using the controller scheme that Factorio added. It’s really designed for a standalone controller.
It works alright, but if you switch (in Steam controller configurator) to standard Deck KBM layout, then R2 is click and right trackpad is mouse. Set Factorio to KBM as well and it won’t say Y anymore.
That’s true, I played many games that were great on the deck but marked as unverified. But that’s exactly my point you can’t really know how many games are actualy playable. When on the deck there is a tab called “great on deck” with games suposedly great to be played on the deck, but in reality these are games that theoretically works… They don’t test for the quality of the experience of playing them on the deck as oposed to another platform.
i use it as a rough guide.
but always check some reviews and comments from deck users too.
no three point scale can reflect all the ins and outs, of techical and playability and preferences.
If i had to guess at why the downvotes, I’d say there’s a failure of comprehension here.
“Great on Deck” means you can play them well on the Steam Deck with few hiccups (damn near what you get if you ran it on Windows, basically). No more, no less. Doesn’t indicate that the game would feel good to play with a controller, but you CAN play it regardless. I don’t have a Deck, but yeah there’s a couple of games in my library that I look at the Community Controller Layouts and go “nah, that looks like a nightmare to use. I’m just gonna not be lazy and KB&M it”. I’m gonna assume doing the opposite on The Deck is…not impossible, but very impractical. Also gonna assume this is your gripe VS what people are likely taking from your sentence (“it says they’re playable, but they’re not”)
I think you are right. I guess I should have been clearer to convey what I meant.