Don’t get me wrong, there’s plenty to gripe about with apple, just like every tech company, but I swear half the complaints I hear about Apple products on lemmy are either outdated or just plain wrong
For some reason the anti-Apple circle jerk is supercharged on Lemmy. I’ll never understand why people get themselves so worked up over a brand they never have to do business with
I agree. I work in IT and often get asked what the best phone is when someone is looking. I tell them to go to the store and play around with a number of phones for a while. The one they seem to like best or are drawn to more is the one they should get. It makes 0 difference to me what brand of phone/pc/diapers/whatever someone else uses.
I have no problem telling non-technical people to get an iSomething. Most of the time, it just works, especially amongst its own ecosystem. Android on its own works plenty fine too, but getting it to play ball with other gadgets can be an adventure sometimes.
Apple clearly expects/intends you to get a Mac if you have an iPhone. For a notebook, that’s great, I like MacBooks… there’s no way I’m getting a Mac desktop, though. There’s obviously great interoperability with iOS devices and MacBooks but not so much with Windows. Apple has an iCloud extension for Explorer, but it isn’t very well written and wastes a lot of resources. I also have never been able to get windows to connect to the iPhone for a wired USB hotspot.
In general, the anti-apple cult is much stronger than the supposed pro-apple cult. I haven’t seen people really give that much of a fuck about apple positively in years but if you prefer an iphone, some people insist you’re obsessed with them.
on this site at least - you’re absolutely right, and the fact that you’re getting bombed with downvotes is pretty solid anecdotal evidence of that if nothing else lol
Don’t get me wrong, I get just as annoyed by those who insist Apple can do no wrong as those who insist they can do no right. I just find it weird how pseudo-religious people can get about Apple. It seems like you’re not allowed to just view them as another tech company. You have to either crusade against them, or else you’re a paid apple shill
At the time I made the comment, it was literally just those downvote and not one up vote(except the one by the OP), hence my comment
Its actually an interesting phenomenon I’ve noticed on reddit and now lemmy - if someone is getting down voted for something dumb like violating the circle jerk, if a child comment points it out, the downvote stop instantly and it starts being up voted 🤷🏼♂️
Either that or an elitist whose goal is “to appear rich”. Like, the flagship models of the major Android phones are the same price if not more, but for some reason having an Apple device is just some sort of status symbol.
I’m pretty sure the whole “iPhone as a status symbol” thing is a thing of the past - I literally can’t remember anytime in the last 5 years that anyone expressed envy at someone owning a iphone.
I’d argue that yearly upgrades regardless of phone brand are more of the status symbol now
Oh I agree entirely when it comes to people expressing envy or something. But I still see people bring up the status symbol argument when debating whether iOS or Android is superior.
Ooo that’s a nice feature lol - how’s kbin these days? I checked it out at the beginning but went with Lemmy - have they added hashtag following to the microblogging portion? And is there a good app?
It’s been pretty steady. I’ve alternated between kbin and lemmy for a while. I generally only use the web interfaces… I don’t think the kbin app is ready for release yet. Overall I like the interface more than the default Lemmy, though it has some strange aspects also. It doesn’t seem there’s a way to follow hashtags. Overall I find the microblog interface somewhat confusing (I can’t even tell what the up arrow does).
My cousin’s and brother love to give me shit about having an android because it screws up group chats on their end. Sorry, but not getting a new phone and getting used to an entirely new system because a couple messages get wonky, and only because you phone’s manufacturer are elitist assholes.
i use a mac for work, so i got an iphone. An ipad replaced most of my laptop work. At that point the ecosystem just made sense for me. Apple are a bad company, but their shit just works for me.
Lemmy users just have better taste. Also all my negative opinions about Apple products were formed a decade ago and I haven’t had anything to do with them since.
The last paid Mac OS update was Mountain Lion in 2012. Wasn’t the last paid Windows update Windows 7 in 2009, since it’s technically possible to update all the way to Windows 11 without buying another license.
Bright to you by the same people who will trash Windows over some aspect of the OS, and in the same sentence praise Linux for how wonderful and innovative it is for doing the exact same thing.
What exactly do people complain about Windows doing that Linux also does? Trying to be neutral here, but I can’t think of a single issue that is a common windows complaint that is also an issue on Linux. I can think of plenty of issues for both OS’s (and MacOS too fwiw), but the venn diagram of windows issues and Linux issues is just two non overlapping circles as far as I can tell lol
When their last paid update launched, Mac’s were expected to last the better part of a decade, just like Windows (and certain Linux distros can last much longer.)
Today, Apple cuts off all support after just three years. Their “updates” are fluffy marketing bullshit. The latest one is just a bunch of wallpapers and screensavers.
Windows, on average, releases an update every three years, on average. Any computer thay can run it can get them for about $100. The cheapest Mac is $1,000.
So people are paying ten times more, all while they believe they are getting a great deal and “free” updates compared to the “paid” alternative.
So, what? We’re just straight up making shit up about Mac now when trashing it on Lemmy?
Its literally been over a decade since the last time Apple charged for an OS update
It’s a comic from 2011. Here’s the source: https://www.stickycomics.com/computer-update/
I mean, that’s cool - but it’s still on the front page today
I think it’s important to consider that the joke was made over a decade ago before getting upset that it hasn’t been accurate in over a decade.
But yeah, OP probably could have included a date in the title and avoided some of this.
No fun allowed on lemmy, everyone!
Then Op is an idiot
And I believe they stopped charging for OS updates before Microsoft did, though I could be misremembering.
They 100% did
Don’t get me wrong, there’s plenty to gripe about with apple, just like every tech company, but I swear half the complaints I hear about Apple products on lemmy are either outdated or just plain wrong
For some reason the anti-Apple circle jerk is supercharged on Lemmy. I’ll never understand why people get themselves so worked up over a brand they never have to do business with
I agree. I work in IT and often get asked what the best phone is when someone is looking. I tell them to go to the store and play around with a number of phones for a while. The one they seem to like best or are drawn to more is the one they should get. It makes 0 difference to me what brand of phone/pc/diapers/whatever someone else uses.
I have no problem telling non-technical people to get an iSomething. Most of the time, it just works, especially amongst its own ecosystem. Android on its own works plenty fine too, but getting it to play ball with other gadgets can be an adventure sometimes.
Apple clearly expects/intends you to get a Mac if you have an iPhone. For a notebook, that’s great, I like MacBooks… there’s no way I’m getting a Mac desktop, though. There’s obviously great interoperability with iOS devices and MacBooks but not so much with Windows. Apple has an iCloud extension for Explorer, but it isn’t very well written and wastes a lot of resources. I also have never been able to get windows to connect to the iPhone for a wired USB hotspot.
In general, the anti-apple cult is much stronger than the supposed pro-apple cult. I haven’t seen people really give that much of a fuck about apple positively in years but if you prefer an iphone, some people insist you’re obsessed with them.
on this site at least - you’re absolutely right, and the fact that you’re getting bombed with downvotes is pretty solid anecdotal evidence of that if nothing else lol
Don’t get me wrong, I get just as annoyed by those who insist Apple can do no wrong as those who insist they can do no right. I just find it weird how pseudo-religious people can get about Apple. It seems like you’re not allowed to just view them as another tech company. You have to either crusade against them, or else you’re a paid apple shill
“BOMBED with downvotes”
They have three as of this post, chill out lol
At the time I made the comment, it was literally just those downvote and not one up vote(except the one by the OP), hence my comment
Its actually an interesting phenomenon I’ve noticed on reddit and now lemmy - if someone is getting down voted for something dumb like violating the circle jerk, if a child comment points it out, the downvote stop instantly and it starts being up voted 🤷🏼♂️
Either that or an elitist whose goal is “to appear rich”. Like, the flagship models of the major Android phones are the same price if not more, but for some reason having an Apple device is just some sort of status symbol.
I’m pretty sure the whole “iPhone as a status symbol” thing is a thing of the past - I literally can’t remember anytime in the last 5 years that anyone expressed envy at someone owning a iphone.
I’d argue that yearly upgrades regardless of phone brand are more of the status symbol now
Oh I agree entirely when it comes to people expressing envy or something. But I still see people bring up the status symbol argument when debating whether iOS or Android is superior.
I’m on kbin so downvotes from other instances (??)… they don’t even show up.
Ooo that’s a nice feature lol - how’s kbin these days? I checked it out at the beginning but went with Lemmy - have they added hashtag following to the microblogging portion? And is there a good app?
It’s been pretty steady. I’ve alternated between kbin and lemmy for a while. I generally only use the web interfaces… I don’t think the kbin app is ready for release yet. Overall I like the interface more than the default Lemmy, though it has some strange aspects also. It doesn’t seem there’s a way to follow hashtags. Overall I find the microblog interface somewhat confusing (I can’t even tell what the up arrow does).
I’ve met people who won’t date someone because they have an Android. Never once seen it the other way around.
My cousin’s and brother love to give me shit about having an android because it screws up group chats on their end. Sorry, but not getting a new phone and getting used to an entirely new system because a couple messages get wonky, and only because you phone’s manufacturer are elitist assholes.
If someone is shallow enough to reject a potential relationship based on phone choice, I don’t think it was going to work out.
i use a mac for work, so i got an iphone. An ipad replaced most of my laptop work. At that point the ecosystem just made sense for me. Apple are a bad company, but their shit just works for me.
Lemmy users just have better taste. Also all my negative opinions about Apple products were formed a decade ago and I haven’t had anything to do with them since.
I didn’t care nearly as much till I started working at a company that is 100% apple only.
That said, I try to keep my complaints focused on things I found aggravating.
You are not.
The last paid Mac OS update was Mountain Lion in 2012. Wasn’t the last paid Windows update Windows 7 in 2009, since it’s technically possible to update all the way to Windows 11 without buying another license.
This meme is older than decade as well.
Bright to you by the same people who will trash Windows over some aspect of the OS, and in the same sentence praise Linux for how wonderful and innovative it is for doing the exact same thing.
What exactly do people complain about Windows doing that Linux also does? Trying to be neutral here, but I can’t think of a single issue that is a common windows complaint that is also an issue on Linux. I can think of plenty of issues for both OS’s (and MacOS too fwiw), but the venn diagram of windows issues and Linux issues is just two non overlapping circles as far as I can tell lol
When their last paid update launched, Mac’s were expected to last the better part of a decade, just like Windows (and certain Linux distros can last much longer.)
Today, Apple cuts off all support after just three years. Their “updates” are fluffy marketing bullshit. The latest one is just a bunch of wallpapers and screensavers.
Windows, on average, releases an update every three years, on average. Any computer thay can run it can get them for about $100. The cheapest Mac is $1,000.
So people are paying ten times more, all while they believe they are getting a great deal and “free” updates compared to the “paid” alternative.