• MxM111@kbin.social
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    1 year ago

    Nothing wrong in making money for someone else, IF you get yourself decent salary and have interesting work.

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      1 year ago

      I dunno, working in construction contracting has taught me that time in man hours is the ultimate pricing value point, that everything can be boiled down to. Someone who gives up their time should reap the most benefits. Someone who owns a business and pays others to work should be heavily taxed.

      Earning a bit more does help make it more palatable, but it still isn’t fair.

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          1 year ago

          A common saying is that a fair deal is one that neither party feels happy with, because neither one is taking advantage of the other.

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            1 year ago

            Which is what happens when a person is hired? Both parties are happy with the agreement, otherwise they wouldn’t accept, right?

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              1 year ago

              Most people do not have the luxury of turning down a job offer, as the alternative is hunger and homelessness, which the employer uses as leverage to underpay their employee.

              If housing and basic food staples were a human right (free) only then would you see fair wages in the open market, as people would have the option to turn down unfair jobs, forcing the employer to make them fair or hire no one.

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                  1 year ago

                  Well, for one; Wages keeping up with inflation and productivity would go a long way to being more fair.

                  But I’m curious why you’re asking me what is fair, I already laid that out in my second paragraph in my previous comment. As I said, if the absolute basics to living were freely available, people would be free to reject unfair offers, and thus, in a theoretical ‘free market’ wages and benefits would increase to a truly fair and equal level.

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                    1 year ago

                    So, your statement is that it is fair to guarantee the basic of living regardless of the person works or not. How do you respond to criticism that it is not fair to forcefully take money via taxes and spend them setting up standard of living for someone else?