We’ve tried nothing and we’re all out of ideas!

Meanwhile, my Hybrid Maverick is backordered so long, they’re asking people to switch to the gas only engine. But hey, this stuff doesn’t sell.

Here’s an idea, instead of only selling $80k+ EVs, sell some $25k ones.

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    9 months ago

    Meanwhile … Honda and GM cancelled their joint ev platform because affordable cars are too hard

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    I agree there is definitely a cost and availability component to all of this. The MSRP of new ICE and EV vehicles are very high, then the dealers have them marked up by thousands because they (mostly EVs) are on back order. Personally I don’t know too many people that have 6+ months to wait on a new car. They need one soon because their current vehicle is dead or dying. The risk of not having a functional vehicle while you wait for your new one to be delivered undoubtedly pushes people to go with ICE cars that they know they can get immediately. The transmission in my wife’s car was on life support early this year, we really wanted a Bolt, it seemed like a decent option for the price, but couldn’t get one nearby for months, went with a Buick instead.

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    Think of how incompetent Musk has come off in the last couple of years. These execs are even more pathetic.

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    Yeah, people don’t talk about it, but it’s sooo hard for average Americans to justify a full EV.

    If you want to travel long distances, 30 minutes for 70% range every few hours is rough. If you don’t own a home, figuring out how to charge at your apartment is tough, if you do own a home, having to drop thousands on an electrician on top of thousands in car down payment is tough. Also, the average EV is like $5k more than the average car, and the average car is already like $48k, which is insane.

    My girlfriend and I are thinking of getting a Chevy bolt to share, but we still have to save for the electrician costs.

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      Travelling long distance isn’t as often as an occurrence as people think it is, the vast majority of people will use it for commuting 95% of the time or more. Having to stop once or twice per 10 hour road trip is something almost everyone already does, it’s not that big of a change tbh

      Cars with ranges far longer than the average commute have been around for years

      You don’t need to drop any money on an electrician, if you have a dryer plug you can charge right off of that. If you don’t you can use a 110v plug, though that’s sinfully slow tbf

      The major issues facing EV adoption are people not owning / renting homes capable of easy charging, higher buy-in cost, and misinformation on range and charging

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        It doesn’t need to be a common occurrence. It is the second most expensive item you are likely to own. It shouldn’t have huge limitations.

        Could you imagine something like a hurricane evacuation if everyone owned only electric cars?

        Hopefully we will see a lot of households owning at least one as their round town daily driver, but I doubt we’ll ever get past 50% take up with current tech.

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      A Chevy Bolt has very slow DC charging about 70% range around a hour. The Hyundai ionic 5/6 on a EA 350kW DC can go from 18 to 80% in 18 minutes a Tesla can do that in about 20 minutes, so I really don’t think that amount of time is a big deal.

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    Obviously. EVs don’t solve anything - just move the consumption from one type of energy to another.

    We need walkable cities and high quality public transport.

    We will need socialism first to make that happen tho so the CEOs are gonna keep blaming the consumers for them not making the profits they oh so desperately hoard.

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      Load of horseshit. More and more of our electricity is renewables. It grows every year. And EVs DO solve emissions problems. In the US we are NOT getting walkable cities. That ship sailed about 150 years ago.

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        Plus, iirc, I believe a coal plant powering an EV is still better for the environment than a similar gas car.

        Either way though, so much of US power is moving towards renewables. This dude’s take is wild.