• Cyborganism@lemmy.ca
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    1 year ago

    Why are you playing devil’s advocate? Are you opposed to giving everyone an equal opportunity in life?

    Have you even read the links I provided to you? At least read the article?

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      1 year ago

      I have followed the UBI subject for the past ten or fifteen years. I used to be an advocate for it. It was precisely through reading and thinking about it that I started to question whether it really was a better alternative to our current welfare programs.

      It stands to reason that if extending OAS to people over 60yo would lead to more people retiring early and stop contributing significantly to our tax base, then a UBI which essentially means extending OAS to every adult would have a similar effect, only multiplied. And with fewer workers, how do we pay for UBI and everything else?

      I’m sure there’s plenty of room for improvement to our existing welfare programs, but that doesn’t automatically mean extending them to every healthy person is the only solution or the best one.

      Are you opposed to giving everyone an equal opportunity in life?

      Giving everybody a good opportunity in life doesn’t mean a UBI, and a UBI doesn’t mean giving everybody a good opportunity either. It’s a false dichotomy.

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        1 year ago

        Ah wait hold on. You’re taking about UBI applying only to retired people?

        I’m talking about it applying to everyone that’s independent. Whether it’s a 16 year old that is emancipated because they can’t live with their parents for whatever reason, anyone over 18, or even retired people.