• ubermeisters@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Alternative Headline:

    Small-brained individual blames others for the thoughts in his own mind

    Listen, I’m not saying these communities aren’t an issue, but the first amendment is a thing (etc etc ad nauseum). We need to hold individuals responsible for thier conscious choices. Idc if someone convinced you to be a bad person, facts are you’re a bad person, and will be judged accordingly. In a fair and just trial.

    Nobody should get off the hook for acting on things other said to do.

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      Who are you arguing with?

      No one is saying his sentence should be less because the ideology he fell into turned him into a raging asshole.

      The argument is that these communities exist to create raging assholes. It’s an indictment of the right-wing media ecosystem as a whole by reasonably associating it this person’s clear hateful actions. In other words, others should be on the hook along with this asshole.

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        Who are you arguing with?

        When you start your reply by gaslighting me, you’re off to a bad start.

        Intentionally framing my comment as aggressive against a group of people is insincere and childish in nature.

        If your counterpoints can’t stand by themselves, and you feel the need to denigrate my comment via gaslighting me, then you’re also off to a bad start.

        Also, the basis of your self proclaimed argument is entitlement. Gross.

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          Upvote for entertainment.

          If you feel your comment was denigrated because I pointed out that you’re arguing with a strawman, then…yeah, I’m guilty. If that’s also gaslighting you, rather than you being wrong for arguing with an strawman, then…I suppose that’s my second offense. And you want to respond that I’m a stupid, entitled fool for thinking that people should be held responsible for the radicalization of others, then I anticipate my third strike that gets me thrown in conservative cancel jail.

          Or you can just admit literally no one was saying he should be charged less for anything at all. I mean, it’s easy enough to just prove me wrong by quoting directly from the article. Where did they say that? I know conservatives aren’t really concerned about evidence and truth and objective reality, but if you’re going to convince me that I’m wrong, you’ll need to understand those things better than you understand the concept of “counterpoints” and certainly better than you understand gaslighting.

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      1 year ago

      But that does not align with the movement to forbid dissenting ideas. Please reconsider.

      /s

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    I’m really interested why Lemmy says there are -6 new messages? That many deleted comments or what?

    As for the story, it turns out water is wet. Not really a surprise.

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      At the moment, lemmy is not great with comment integrity. If somebody deletes a comment (mod or the user themselves), the entire chain basically gets nuked.

      So it looks like a conservative got embarrassed that they were supporting a white supremacist killer, and deleted their comments. Or maybe they got banned.

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        10 months ago

        I’m new here- so this place is kind of like Reddit except less tolerant of political dissent? Do you have to be Democrat for Lemmy? I don’t understand.

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          No one seems to care when Christians or Jews are killed

          What suggests to you that this is the case?

          If it’s the manifesto release, i don’t see how that equates to attention on the subject. Various PDs are going to have different policies on the release of information.

          And if it’s the media coverage, there was a shit load of coverage of Audrey Hale, so I don’t see why you’re making a complaint over lack of attention.

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                  Anything to avoid saying “Transgender Extremist Murders Christian Children”, which is what happened, end of story.

                  Wording it like that is itself agenda driven. You don’t want accuracy, you just want the headlines to fit a specific agenda, one that derides trans people and plays towards the christian persecution fetish.

                  There is a clear agenda from the media to demonize white straight men and elevate everybody else, regardless how heinous their actions

                  There is no such agenda. Most shooters are white men, so most coverage is of white men.

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    Funny, I’ve been reading the good, the bad, and in insane from infowars for years, and I’ve for some unknown reason never felt the need to go kill people who weren’t white. Probably because this is just stupid and an an excuse from a childish adult that wanted people to feel bad for him because he got caught. Nice try.