This war shows just how broken social media has become — The global town square is in ruins::The global town square is in ruins.

  • Steeve@lemmy.ca
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    Yeah I mean instead you just had an entire country pretty much unanimously vote for Reagan economics that we’re still feeling the brutal effects of today while the dissenting voices were just entirely unheard.

    People are louder, they aren’t stupider. Shit, at least 2016 was split.

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      I don’t think that proves your point at all.

      When people elected Reagan, they saw an articulate, charismatic man offering easy to digest solutions that sounded plausible. They had no context to know that neoliberalism was bullshit that only made rich people richer with each successive failure.

      Any dissenting voices were (at best) saying “I don’t agree with their guess, so here is my guess instead”.

      Meanwhile, what do we have now? Donald fucking Trump. A man who is barely coherent. A man whose inherited wealth has shielded him not just from multiple dogshit business decisions, but extremely serious charges of being a traitor to his country. And of course, a staunch neoliberal in the modern “don’t say it out loud” movement.

      Every piece of information people needed to make a better choice was out there and freely available. There was no excuse for not knowing who he was or that his economic ideas had failed to deliver on their promises thousands of times the world over.

      But people continue to enthusiastically support him. They would kill and die for a man who is openly revolted by having to interact with them.

      Yes, they’re louder.

      But they’re stupider too.

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        Doesn’t that just show young people are informed to the point that American conservatives have to resort to general silliness and outrage to get their shitty base of mainly older generations to vote?

        I think you’re confusing the loud minority for the majority

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          Andrew Tate is a role model for millions of boys and young men.

          Okay, maybe they don’t have the context needed to understand that he’s just a rapist who is desperately trying to pretend his father’s abuse was love in disguise.

          But the man claimed he was the world’s first trillionaire. That’s the kind of lie a literal toddler would tell, yet grown men believed it.

          Are they the majority? No, probably not.

          But I can’t remember another group of people so deliberately, unapologetically stupid as modern reactionaries, nor a time where they’ve wielded so much power.

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            Are they the majority? No, probably not.

            No, hard stop. Not even fucking close. Your examples are confirmation bias.

            nor a time where they’ve wielded so much power.

            Do you not remember the Christian groups of the… 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, and 90s? They always have, you just weren’t informed via the internet about it.

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              No, hard stop. Not even fucking close.

              Articulate the group of people you’re talking about then so we can actually discuss them, rather than you just insisting they’re everything you pinkie promise they were.

              Because you’re awful confident about who they are, what their numbers are, what they believed and how much power they weilded without actually articulating who “they” are in any meaningful way.

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                What? That was a direct response to your comment. I quoted you, “they” is from your comment lol. Try reading that again.

                you just insisting they’re everything you pinkie promise they were.

                Do you really think that I have to provide evidence to disprove bullshit anecdotal claims that were never proven in the first place? That’s not how discussion works.

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                  Okay, so you don’t actually know who you’re talking about, but you’re certain you’re correct.

                  I was giving you the benefit of the doubt in case it was a miscommunication and we were talking about entirely different groups of people.

                  But nope, you’re just saying any old bullshit with absolute conviction because you want to look like the smartest person in the room.

                  Reading back, it’s actually pretty obvious that you didn’t experience Reagan nor the 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s and 90s. You’re just extrapolating your 5 years of adulthood backwards 50 years and assuming you’ve nailed it.

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                    Lol what the fuck are you talking about? “They” in that context was the “millions of boys and young men” who see Andrew Tate as a role model. This is all from your comment. Haha are you finding it hard to keep track of your fragmented delusional arguments on the internet? Go back to complaining about “people these days” and how much smarter you were back in the day lol.