• Cylusthevirus@kbin.social
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    Probably they’re more like Quakers, Episcopalians, Presbyterians, United Church of Christ, or United Methodists. You know, the denominations with openly gay clergy who see their role as advancing the cause of social justice and helping the poor and disenfranchised in their communities.

    Giving people shit for a label is bigoted as fuck. Also, thanks for making a dad joke thread about your unresolved religious trauma.

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      United Methodist is a tricky example to use. I know because I was one of their clergy at one point.

      Officially they still ban gay clergy, even after the recent schism where the most-bigoted group left and formed the “Global Methodist Church.”

      American United Methodists (especially the clergy) tend to be fairly progressive, but the African and Asian branches of the church are massive and extremely conservative. They’ve managed to keep the church from being able to change its official stance on homosexuality, which is that it’s “incompatible with Christian teaching.”

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      I’m not religious these days, but I’m really glad the church I raised in was a UCC church. My first experience with blatant church bigotry was when I went to a Baptist church service with a friend when I was around 10. Pastor used 3 slurs within 10 minutes, even as a 10 year old I was wondering what the fuck happened to love thy neighbor.

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        You’re holding this person responsible for an evil because they share a demographic with the perpetrators, even though they have nothing to do with it? Yeah that sounds like bigotry to me.

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            Correct me if I’m misapplying your logic then, but it sounds like this means…

            • It’s okay to hold Muslims responsible for Al Qaeda because they can just choose not to follow Islam.
            • It’s okay to think of all Romani as criminals because they can just choose to leave their culture.
            • It’s okay to be misandristic because they can just choose to transition.
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      Giving people shit for a label is bigoted as fuck.

      Only if you have no choice about it. I have zero qualms criticizing people for their choices.

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        From Merriam-Webster:

        Bigot
        : a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices
        especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (such as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance

        Synonyms include dogmatist, partisan, and sectarian.

        Here’s an article that may help you to understand why you are a bigot a bit better: https://www.existbetter.co/single-post/2019/04/15/Bigotry-is-a-SymptomHow-to-Handle-a-Bigot

        Hopefully we can eliminate hate of all kinds from this world.

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          Racial or ethnic groups are made up of people who did not have a choice about their race or ethnicity. While indoctrination from childhood can certainly cause a person’s religious views, and work alongside community pressure to keep them pinned in place, ultimately an individual is responsible for their own thoughts. Criticizing someone for what they think is not bigotry.

          Your article link goes to a domain that does not exist.

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            Maybe it’s blocked in your country. I had no trouble accessing the article.

            EDIT: Looks like the website got deleted after I linked it. Weird.

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