• Plopp@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      If it’s not too harmful - what’s the problem with being addicted? I’m addicted to coffee and drink at least two cups per day, as do most people around here.

      • Goo_bubbs@lemmings.world
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        1 year ago

        Nobody out there is just buying Nicotine gum for the flavor. The overwhelming majority are struggling with an addiction that may one day kill them.

        Also, as a former smoker of over 20 years as well as a current coffee addict, I can tell you from personal experience that there is no comparison between the two. Some substances are simply more addictive than others. Nicotine is one of the worst on the planet.

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          1 year ago

          You say that, but even if there was a pill that instantly cured all addiction, I’d probably still crave coffee every day.

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            1 year ago

            …because there isn’t a pill that instantly cures all addiction. Addiction is a complicated thing that combines a lot of factors between physical dependence, pleasure-seeking, memory formation, and a lot more.

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          1 year ago

          Idk man, I vaped for years many times a day and was able to quit very easily, but sugar and caffeine I just can’t, they’re so much more addictive to me.

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        The problem with addiction is that it’s safe to say that NOTHING is good if used to excess.

        I used to be so hooked on caffeine I drank a 30-cup pot each day. It was giving me all kinds of issues, and I was only in my 20’s. I’m still addicted, but I’ve learned to moderate. It took me years. And my 4th latte of the day is telling me that I’m not exactly great at it.

        If I smoked/vaped Nicotine, I would have serious problems of taking too much all the time.

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            1 year ago

            Not at all. I don’t suggest any bans. I said elsewhere I would not oppose pre-rolled cigarette bans because they are especially dangerous and would not reduce access to the product itself. But I also don’t suggest pre-rolled cigarette bans.

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      1 year ago

      If addiction is a problem, should the general use of caffine be banned then? Thats why its kinda odd to specifically ban nicotine.

      Choosing to ban specifically nicotine and not caffine is as silly as the idea that cigarettes should be legal but weed shouldnt.

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        1 year ago

        Probably, yes. Even the age restrictions are kinda silly.

        I do think it’s ok to ban sale of “prepared smokables” like cigarettes. The harm level is known to be severe. But if someone wants to buy their own tobacco+papers and roll their own cigarettes, that’s on them.

        Of course, I don’t think it would be effective to ban cigarettes. Just ethically coherent.

    • Nobsi@feddit.de
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      1 year ago

      The addicting part isnt the nicotine. Its everything atound it. The ritual, the friends the “doing something with your hands”.
      The psychological addiction is way stronger than the nicotine addiction that you can just overcome in 2 weeks.