I’m excited to see pixel grow but why are we accepting this storage bullshit? 128GB in 2023? Why do we tolerate this storage extortion. Hard drive space costs almost nothing yet they give this unacceptable starting model to sell more cloud bullshit. Apple is even worse at this. Disgusting stuff.
I’m not arguing against your point at all because that seems like a personal matter. However, I am interested in knowing how the typical person uses more than 128GB of storage space. Aside from people with interests that require more space (eg a photographer or traveler), what do people have on their phones that take up more than 128GB of storage space?
My point being is that the production cost between 256gb and 128gb driver is almost identical and the phone manufacturers purposefully gimp the product to upsell some random bullshit.
Literally billions of people. Like people forget smart phone games are so far ahead by user count that a single game often has more players than ALL gaming consoles COMBINED. I’m not saying it’s great, I’m just saying it’s wildly popular.
Ya, because it’s full of children. The games you are talking about are games like Minecraft, where their parents won’t buy them a computer or console, but they will run it at 20fps on their random tablet.
Photos (I like to shoot RAW+JPEG), videos and music. Pixels don’t come with micro SD card slots, and other manufacturers have been getting rid of it as well.
RAW files contain the raw, unprocessed information from the camera’s sensor, whereas the JPEGs have the device manufacturer’s processing on them. RAW images provide a lot of flexibility when editing in applications like Adobe Lightroom. You can recover a lot of detail you otherwise might lose in JPEGs. After processing them you export them as JPEGs.
Here’s a good example I found online:
They take up a lot of space. A picture of my housemate’s cat was 3.2 MB in JPEG and 16.6 MB in RAW.
Pixel 7 pro 256gb model checking in. I don’t take a bunch of pictures and videos but I also hardly ever delete anything and I take pictures and videos in the highest possible quality I can. My phone has 100gb of storage left between apps and media.
I personally like to go camping, offroading, sometimes hiking. The camping can be for days at a time in places with marginal cellular signal. So I personally like having GBs and GBs of mp3s loaded onto my device to listen to.
Probably not a typical use case, but 64+ GB of music isn’t out of the question at all for me
I dont know how, but i have currently 68gb of App data on my phone. Im a photographer and traveler and i already try to push photos to cloud. But sometimes its not possible. So im happy about 256gb, so i dont need to care.
I want to switch to a Pixel 8 Pro, but im considered with that price tag and i need to pay 70€ for additional 128gb of storage…
I mean they promoted it with more MP cameras and better video, that will all take up storage.
I think its fair to call it BS not starting with 256gb as a basis.
You don’t have to accept it, just buy something else. That’s the beauty of Android. I’m using an Xperia 1 IV and really like it. The Mark V is better with heat and a few other things but not enough to switch right away. 512 GB internal, SD card slot, headphone jack… basically everything phone buyers complain about getting removed are all available in one package.
Fine, I used a synonym instead of the exact word you used “tolerate”. The point is, the power to tolerate this or not is still in your/our hands. If we only talk and complain, but don’t actually reward with our business the companies who do what we say we want, then the future will absolutely be no on board storage, cloud connected, personal-data-harvesting everything.
So it kind of does have something to do with accepting (or not) these things.
Overall not too bad, but using the camera, and especially recording video, will cause it to overheat and ask you to take a break much quicker than it really should. Honestly that’s not a minor issue I guess when one of the main features forces you to stop using it after a relatively brief time. I think the 5 series is better at managing that though.
Extra 60$ and thats exactly the problem with discussing this as people defend it by straight up lying. It’s always a little bit like oh it’s just a few extra dollars or it’s like 5 when it’s 10 and it creates this delusion that just enforces this dark pattern.
Two of the reasons why I chose a Motorola Moto G Stylus 5G (2022) over a Pixel 6a with much better other specs was that it has 256GB internal storage and that it has a MicroSDXC slot vs 128GB and no slot. This stuff matters to me.
I’m excited to see pixel grow but why are we accepting this storage bullshit? 128GB in 2023? Why do we tolerate this storage extortion. Hard drive space costs almost nothing yet they give this unacceptable starting model to sell more cloud bullshit. Apple is even worse at this. Disgusting stuff.
I’m not arguing against your point at all because that seems like a personal matter. However, I am interested in knowing how the typical person uses more than 128GB of storage space. Aside from people with interests that require more space (eg a photographer or traveler), what do people have on their phones that take up more than 128GB of storage space?
Dude android games these days are 10gb+
My point being is that the production cost between 256gb and 128gb driver is almost identical and the phone manufacturers purposefully gimp the product to upsell some random bullshit.
And how many people play these games? I don’t know a single person that does. For all these people, that much storage would be a waste.
Literally billions of people. Like people forget smart phone games are so far ahead by user count that a single game often has more players than ALL gaming consoles COMBINED. I’m not saying it’s great, I’m just saying it’s wildly popular.
Ya, because it’s full of children. The games you are talking about are games like Minecraft, where their parents won’t buy them a computer or console, but they will run it at 20fps on their random tablet.
Eh, gatekeeping is so 2020
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Photos (I like to shoot RAW+JPEG), videos and music. Pixels don’t come with micro SD card slots, and other manufacturers have been getting rid of it as well.
Even apps these days are at least 100-200 MB.
Interesting! How do phones typically encode their files, and what are the benefits of shooting RAW+JPEG?
RAW files contain the raw, unprocessed information from the camera’s sensor, whereas the JPEGs have the device manufacturer’s processing on them. RAW images provide a lot of flexibility when editing in applications like Adobe Lightroom. You can recover a lot of detail you otherwise might lose in JPEGs. After processing them you export them as JPEGs.
Here’s a good example I found online:
They take up a lot of space. A picture of my housemate’s cat was 3.2 MB in JPEG and 16.6 MB in RAW.
woah, that’s super cool! thanks for sharing and providing an example 🙂
That still doesn’t answer the question though. I have photos and music on my phone and I still have 60+ GB of free storage
I just happen to have more photos, videos, music and apps than you.
How long have you had your phone for? I’ve had my Pixel 6a for just over a year now.
I mainly agree with you, i have enough of 128gb. But i know a lot of people that take a ton of pictures and struggle with storage space
Pixel 7 pro 256gb model checking in. I don’t take a bunch of pictures and videos but I also hardly ever delete anything and I take pictures and videos in the highest possible quality I can. My phone has 100gb of storage left between apps and media.
Loads of FLAC music, track / map storage for offline camping / offroad, offline music downloads from Deezer (Hi-Res) for playback without network.
Here’s one example: An Insta 360 camera for a single 10 minute video can produce upwards of 10gb of data.
Those video files can only really be transferred to your phone for editing and sharing.
That’s ONE example that doesn’t include gaming (a highly mainstream community) that also requires gigabytes of storage.
I personally like to go camping, offroading, sometimes hiking. The camping can be for days at a time in places with marginal cellular signal. So I personally like having GBs and GBs of mp3s loaded onto my device to listen to.
Probably not a typical use case, but 64+ GB of music isn’t out of the question at all for me
I dont know how, but i have currently 68gb of App data on my phone. Im a photographer and traveler and i already try to push photos to cloud. But sometimes its not possible. So im happy about 256gb, so i dont need to care.
I want to switch to a Pixel 8 Pro, but im considered with that price tag and i need to pay 70€ for additional 128gb of storage…
I mean they promoted it with more MP cameras and better video, that will all take up storage.
I think its fair to call it BS not starting with 256gb as a basis.
You don’t have to accept it, just buy something else. That’s the beauty of Android. I’m using an Xperia 1 IV and really like it. The Mark V is better with heat and a few other things but not enough to switch right away. 512 GB internal, SD card slot, headphone jack… basically everything phone buyers complain about getting removed are all available in one package.
It’s a dark pattern and a trend. It has nothing to do with “accepting it”
Fine, I used a synonym instead of the exact word you used “tolerate”. The point is, the power to tolerate this or not is still in your/our hands. If we only talk and complain, but don’t actually reward with our business the companies who do what we say we want, then the future will absolutely be no on board storage, cloud connected, personal-data-harvesting everything.
So it kind of does have something to do with accepting (or not) these things.
Nah I don’t see any reason to tolerate shitty, greedy practice. I’m calling them out not discussing about practical viability.
How’s the heat with your phone? Was looking at a 5 IV but the potential heating issues has me worried.
And apparently the 5 V isn’t coming to the US.
Overall not too bad, but using the camera, and especially recording video, will cause it to overheat and ask you to take a break much quicker than it really should. Honestly that’s not a minor issue I guess when one of the main features forces you to stop using it after a relatively brief time. I think the 5 series is better at managing that though.
They could also spend an extra $50 for the 256GB one.
Extra 60$ and thats exactly the problem with discussing this as people defend it by straight up lying. It’s always a little bit like oh it’s just a few extra dollars or it’s like 5 when it’s 10 and it creates this delusion that just enforces this dark pattern.
Also a viable option…
And what happens when that runs out?
Two of the reasons why I chose a Motorola Moto G Stylus 5G (2022) over a Pixel 6a with much better other specs was that it has 256GB internal storage and that it has a MicroSDXC slot vs 128GB and no slot. This stuff matters to me.
SD warriors be like
I guess I’m the only one who uses phone storage like slow motion swap.
Stuff gets migrated off my phone to my own backup a few times a month
I wouldn’t be opposed to 128GB if the price made sense for it. I’m only using 64GB on my current phone, and it also had 128GB.
Google wants you to use cloud storage.
Obviously yeah. Apple even has a monopoly on their cloud solution so it’s even a more extreme example.
I love Google Photos but it makes me feel dirty when they do me like that.
Would seriously consider an iPhone if they offered the 1tb on the non pro model and didn’t skyrocket the price.
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