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I’ve been paying Amazon for more than 25 years just for the free deliveries. I don’t watch anything on Prime, it’s so hard to navigate between the free and rent videos. Been torrenting since the 90s, yeah I’m old, so my advice stands -get a good VPN, and sail the seven seas-
BitTorrents initial release was in July of 2001. You were not torrenting since the 90s. In the 90s we were still on Napster, soulseek, Usenet, and IRC. Limewire, DirectConnect, and The Pirate Bay wouldn’t come around until into the 2000s. I used BitTorrent mostly to get actual Linux ISOs at first because it was better than downloading for several days only to discover at the end that your md5sum checked bad. The pirating came later once the trackers got a better selection than the competing protocols.
The Kademlia network (eMule, Kazaalite, etc), did indeed use a global P2P Distributed Hash Table, to resolve which IPs hosted which content, which the torrent protocol also does … some of:
Unlike the mainline torrent protocol, Kademlia’s DHT (like the modern-day Tribler DHT), also resolved filenames to content, allowing in-app search.
With torrents, one needs to consult a DHT crawler, or an index site (which sucks; centrally operated sites are fragile, compared to DHTs), whereas eMule & more contemporarily Tribler, have two layers of DHT, enabling decentralized search without relyiance on someone having created a listing at some particular site & that site being online to search its index.
eMule was introduced in 2002, which is again NOT THE 90s. Napster also uses a very different protocol, without any of the distributed file sharing. With P2P like Napster, soulseek, and DirectConnect you downloaded a complete file from one person only. Once you had it and could share it, someone could get it from you. But downloading bits of the same file from multiple peers at once was not a thing until after BitTorrent’s release in 2001.
I’ve been paying Amazon for more than 25 years just for the free deliveries. I don’t watch anything on Prime, it’s so hard to navigate between the free and rent videos. Been torrenting since the 90s, yeah I’m old, so my advice stands -get a good VPN, and sail the seven seas-
BitTorrents initial release was in July of 2001. You were not torrenting since the 90s. In the 90s we were still on Napster, soulseek, Usenet, and IRC. Limewire, DirectConnect, and The Pirate Bay wouldn’t come around until into the 2000s. I used BitTorrent mostly to get actual Linux ISOs at first because it was better than downloading for several days only to discover at the end that your md5sum checked bad. The pirating came later once the trackers got a better selection than the competing protocols.
P2P filesharing has been around since the '90s.
His point was that bittorrent wasn’t around in the 90s
Not really. “Torrenting” has become synonymous with “P2P filesharing,” so it’s clear what OP meant.
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Meh, I’d consider Emule and Napster type things torrenting.
I don’t recall if they used peering though. I thought they did (twas a long time ago).
The Kademlia network (eMule, Kazaalite, etc), did indeed use a global P2P Distributed Hash Table, to resolve which IPs hosted which content, which the torrent protocol also does … some of:
Unlike the mainline torrent protocol, Kademlia’s DHT (like the modern-day Tribler DHT), also resolved filenames to content, allowing in-app search.
With torrents, one needs to consult a DHT crawler, or an index site (which sucks; centrally operated sites are fragile, compared to DHTs), whereas eMule & more contemporarily Tribler, have two layers of DHT, enabling decentralized search without relyiance on someone having created a listing at some particular site & that site being online to search its index.
Thanks for the background.
Been a while since I used emule (surprised I remember it!), and I honestly didn’t know the details even then (I was lazy and it worked).
eMule was introduced in 2002, which is again NOT THE 90s. Napster also uses a very different protocol, without any of the distributed file sharing. With P2P like Napster, soulseek, and DirectConnect you downloaded a complete file from one person only. Once you had it and could share it, someone could get it from you. But downloading bits of the same file from multiple peers at once was not a thing until after BitTorrent’s release in 2001.
Thanks.
It’s been a while (was working in a call center back then, plenty of bandwidth), but my memory sucks. Lol