• FluffyPotato@lemm.ee
    481·
    1 year ago

    I guess the press in the USSR was also capitalist controlled because the propaganda there was so blatantly false people made fun of it constantly.

    Lenin really didn’t get how a vanguard party is just another form of bourgeoisie power.

      • FluffyPotato@lemm.ee
        4·
        1 year ago

        Didn’t the USSR start out with planned economy and switch to state capitalism after Stalin? I can’t recall rn though it was definitely a planned economy at some point. It wasn’t ever socialist though.

  • ZapBeebz_@lemmy.world
    33·
    1 year ago

    So what’s the alternative? State controlled media? Because that’s never used to push narratives and agendas.

    • kingthrillgore
      9·
      1 year ago

      The more voices the better. State run, private, individual. Break up large conglomerates like Sinclair. Reintroduce fairness doctrine.

    • brygphilomena@lemmy.world
      7·
      1 year ago

      Regulation on businesses and corporate spend.

      You can have free press if you limit who can influence it. From both corporations and the state.

      Prevent monopolies and the consolidation of news media. Promote dissenting opinions. Promote smaller news organizations and promote discussion.

    • GigglyBobble@kbin.social
      115·
      1 year ago

      That’s the elephant in the room that communists always conveniently overlook.

      “There never was real communism/socialism! We need to really move the means of production” - yeah and who will organize it? Who will ensure the organizers won’t just take it themselves? Because that’s what happened in every attempt.

        • fkn@lemmy.world
          3·
          1 year ago

          The larger they get the more prone they are to becoming problematic. HOAs are a great example of this and require way fewer people before it’s an absolute shit show.

        • GigglyBobble@kbin.social
          11·
          1 year ago

          They pay workers significantly less than capitalist competition though. Somewhat contradicts the bad capitalist exploiter narrative.

      • Petter1@lemm.ee
        2·
        1 year ago

        No country dares to have a free market like America has. In most of Europe, consumer rights are way higher. Same for worker‘s rights and for more rights for people with any sort of disorder.

    • Chaotic Entropy@feddit.uk
      3·
      1 year ago

      I wouldn’t get too excited about the socialist policies of many European countries. We’re seeing waves and waves of far right wing politicians sneaking their way into office across the board and many countries’ policies have been under sustained attack for decades as a result of corporate interests.

  • fkn@lemmy.world
    131·
    1 year ago

    This was a bad argument then and it’s a bad argument now.

    Either a publication can be trusted or it can’t.

    The difference is that a government that stands in the middle of free press inherently makes it impossible to trust that press. The only thing a government can and should do is provide a safe (free of the fear of the loss of life, privilege or property) area for people to engage in discussion. People seeking honesty will have to rigorously find it or have the ability to choose who they allow to find it on their behalf.

    Capitalists will absolutely try to muddy the waters and people must be prepared for it.

  • p000l@lemmy.sdf.org
    8·
    1 year ago

    In India, the media controlled by the corporates is the literal subliminal propaganda machinery for the government.