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    What kind of logic is that? What’s stopping you from being rich? Did someone assign who gets rich and who isn’t?

    Go make a company, build something the people need, and make money!

    Did you see how Jeff Bezos looked like in the 90s? He was begging for investment money to create Amazon, while investors asked “what is internet?”. No one is entitled to anything. You work hard and you might succeed if you do it right.

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      What’s stopping you from being rich?

      Let’s say this is right. Then you should try to explain this: Why are most people not rich?

      Did everyone just collectively decide “nah I want to be poor, be stressed and live paycheck to paycheck”? No, of course they don’t. No one does.

      Your logic is idiotic because you don’t realize the rich became rich by exploiting other people, namely the working class.

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        Let’s say this is right. Then you should try to explain this: Why are most people not rich?

        Because most people are lazy. This is not only a fact based on anecdote, but it’s a statistical fact even assuming a normal distribution of effort. And while everything I say is up to debate, this fact is absolutely not up for debate. In fact, I don’t waste a single day without learning something new, and I see Every. F-ing. Single. Person… around me not even reading a book and wondering “why do I get paid like shit?”, well, “because you’re replaceable by anyone, dumbass”. Learn a skill that only a small handful can do, and see how the money will fly your way. So, yeah, you guys are lazy. You have no idea how much work success takes on average.

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          Are they? Or is it because everyone knows their efforts are not compensated properly?

          If you want people to not be lazy, pay them. You pay 10 dollars, you get 10 dollars of effort. Blindly labelling this as being lazy is quite a… hear this, a lazy way of thinking. Heh. Millions are studying in university to get a job, I would say that they are working really hard! But are their efforts reciprocated properly?

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            Effort doesn’t mean shit. I can go to the street, pick a rock, and put back down, and redo that 100 times. That’s huge effort, but it isn’t worth shit. Value isn’t measured like this. People who only know how to do one thing anyone can do and don’t want to improve are lazy. No other label is appropriate. Make something needed that only a handful can do and you’ll be rich.

            And btw, learning in a college doesn’t qualify as working hard, and more importantly, learning in college isn’t a requirement for success. Your whole worldview needs shaking… I feel bad for this generation!

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              learning in college isn’t a requirement for success

              Why don’t you tell that to the HR departments then? Oh I feel bad for your generation - when basic critical thinking doesn’t exist.

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                I know plumbers who make $250k/year. They didn’t go to college.

                when basic critical thinking doesn’t exist

                When basic life experience doesn’t exist except for what you hear on facebook.

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                  I know plumbers who make $250k/year.

                  And there are college graduates making 90k/yr in the US. That’s why I said efforts are not being compensated properly. The fact that other trades are earning more does not affect this conclusion, think about it more.

                  Imagine basing your judgement on generational stereotypes. Oh no, millennials. Oh no, Gen Z. Oh no, it must be facebook. What other contributional points can you guys provide?

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                    Again, if you’re a failure in college, maybe college isn’t for you. However, unfortunately, college has become a placeholder for anyone who spent their teens with video games instead of planning their future. Everything you know about life is fucked up to the point where you think that it’s a rule of thumb that going to college must mean making more money. No, boy. Again, good plumbers make more than mediocre college graduates. Make a plan and stop following what your failed society has planned for you.

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      Kind of makes it easier if you can get a 60 million dollar loan from daddy like Trump did.

      Or if White Daddy owns an Emerald mine in Black South Africa, taken by force by military from Europe, like was the case for Elron Musk. So how was that fair to all South Africans?

      You are completely blind if you think there is an even playing field.

      Yes there may be the occasional anecdotes, like Jeff Bezos who weren’t born rich, but for them it requires both insanely hard work and luck.

      Anecdotes are not a statistic that proves anything. And the statistics clearly say that if you are rich, chances are overwhelming that you were born into it.

      Yet the rich have a sense of entitlement that they somehow deserve to be rich, but not the people who have to work two jobs, and never have a vacation. How do you arrive at that is a fair system?

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        Yes there may be the occasional anecdotes, like Jeff Bezos who weren’t born rich, but for them it requires both insanely hard work and luck.

        Wait… being rich requires hard work and luck? Too bad. No one can do that. So go to bed and keep begging for money.

        Anecdotes are not a statistic that proves anything.

        And what does? Your own interpretation of your own anecdotes that no one succeeded around you?

        And the statistics clearly say that if you are rich, chances are overwhelming that you were born into it.

        Having a better chance doesn’t mean others don’t have a chance. Do you even understand statistics?

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          Too bad. No one can do that.

          You don’t have any influence on luck. So yes, nobody can do that, that’s something you may or may not get.

          Having a better chance doesn’t mean others don’t have a chance.

          I never claimed any such thing, you are arguing a Straw Man.

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            You don’t have any influence on luck. So yes, nobody can do that, that’s something you may or may not get.

            So basically you don’t want to take the chance because there’s a chance you’ll fail. This is hilarious! No question you’re a failure.

            Here’s a life pro tip: If you don’t try, your success chance is 0%. If you do try, its larger than 0%. Simple math.

            You guys are really a broken generation! Social media broke you.

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              So basically you don’t want to take the chance because there’s a chance you’ll fail.

              I never wrote anything of the kind, you are arguing another straw man.

              You guys are really a broken generation! Social media broke you.

              Yet another straw man, that’s 3 in a row now. Tell me don’t you know what a straw man argument is, since you continue to use them?

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                Yes, of course. Everything is a straw man. Prove me wrong and stop saying… oh sorry, “hinting” that there’s no point in trying. More importantly, stop making that impression to people. We need more people to build new things and work hard. Not more losers in Starbucks serving coffee.