The Pennsylvania Democrat recalled his time serving as a Hillary Clinton surrogate in 2016, even after he supported Bernie Sanders in the primary.

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      When you bring with you almost no votes or support, then what do you expect?

      So the groups that vote reliably for the Dems should get no attention, but the Left should get to dictate policy when it can’t bring up any support?

      That’s the most liberal thinking I’ve ever heard… waaaaa, give me attention, even though I won’t lift a finger to support you!

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        All this is incorrect. Sanders votes converted to establishment votes 80-90%, both rounds. Despite a party that pulled dirty tricks both times to undermine the progressive candidates.

        Also you don’t get your agenda based on “but I voted for you” that’s not how power works. You get your agenda based on “do it or I won’t vote for you”

        In both, 2016 and 2020, the progressive vote was recieved, and the progressive voice was promptly discarded.

        They’re right to be jaded AND they should still vote blue. Both of those things are true.

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        When you bring with you almost no votes or support, then what do you expect?

        You need to make up your mind. Either progressives aren’t bringing enough votes to care about, or you need their votes to win. You can’t have it both ways.

        If you need their votes to win, you better start addressing their issues. If you don’t, then stop blaming them for your losses.

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        I’m confused, doesn’t what you’re saying apply just as much, if not more, to Democrats that some of the progressives reluctantly do end up supporting and voting for despite knowing from their explicit policies and if a career politician, voting record, that they’ll barely represent them? What do those longstanding Democrats expect when they continue to betray, or clumsily compromise away, those positions or policies that more progressive demographics voted them in to office hoping they might defend, or at a minimum compromise on in a way that is in fact progressive and beneficial to folks?

        On that last point, you may argue they do that, but I’d argue that those cases are rare, and instead they more often compromise in such a way as to either hand more over to their opposition, or make moves that are more of a temporary provision that may be cast aside with the next majority and/or administration.