Some of the very worst of the worst liberal takes, apologia for fascist shit, and of course cryptobro grifts and even Tesla worship keep coming from there. It’s fucked.

I don’t want to say all programmers or tech workers are like that, but I don’t like what I’ve seen so far from people with a .programming suffix on their names. disgost

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    The ugly truth is that IT has always been an industry that caters towards the worst of the bourgeoisie. Go back to the 1960s when mainframes took up an entire room. What businesses had the money to even house those mainframes or the business need to justify those mainframes? The answer is basically the military and financial institutions. Your average COBOL developer worked for the military or for some bank as a number cruncher. You might have some oddball developer who worked for NASA or who worked for the FBI in number-crunching surveilled citizens as part of counterinsurgency, but that’s it. The fact that modern IT people gets funneled towards working for Raytheon or Chase is just par for the course. Obviously, if your industry is catered towards the MIC or banks and pays those workers 6-digit salaries, the workers of that industry would be among the most reactionary.

    When the Altair 8800 dropped, all it did was introduced computing to petty bourgeois hobbyists because no actual prole was walking around with an Altair 8800 in 1975. The petty bourgeoisization of tech is when you start seeing libertarian brainworms like how the information superhighway will liberate humanity somehow and various other technocratic bullshit. Even FOSS and piracy, the few good subcultures within tech, sprang out from a petty bourgeois milieu and thus inherited these petty bourgeois brainworms.

    As an aside, this also explains why subcultures that spring forth from IT like gaming are also deeply reactionary. Why are nerds more prone to reaction compared to other marginalized subcultures like skaters or emos? It’s because nerds are attached to tech, which has a reactionary superstructure.

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        I imagine that a lot of geeks and nerds have seen society’s shift from mockery and disdain to embracing their culture. And are upset that the world is able to comfortably enjoy their stuff without paying their dues. Or at least, that’s the perception of it.

        Most previously marginalized subcultures like punks get mad when their subculture becomes mainstream and commodified. The difference is that punks just call people poseurs while gamers become fascist gamergators.

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      I’m still learning, could you please explain how the superstructure of tech is reactionary? Is it due to its proximity with things like weapons companies, tons of investment, intelligence agencies, and so on?

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        Yes, pretty much. A superstructure springs forth from a material base, and if your material base is constantly within close proximity to the center of capitalist power (financial institutions, MIC, counterinsurgency) due to those mainframes requiring plenty of capital to set up, then that will have a huge distorting effect. Along with this, the high salary of tech workers would naturally would dampen any revolutionary potential, and it shouldn’t be a surprise tech workers would have reactionary ideas. It’s only with the Altair 8800 that petty bourgeois hobbyists started to get into tech and the class character of tech turned from something completely upholding the bourgeois status quo into this half status quo/half libertarian hybrid. Raytheon engineer finding innovative ways to bomb brown children represents the old-school form of reaction while some cryptobro trying to scam you represents the newer form of reaction.

        Surveillance Valley by Yasha Levine goes into the history of the Internet, starting from its very beginning as a tool of surveillance against dissidents during the Vietnam War into contemporary times. He isn’t a Marxist, but he makes a very compelling case that the Internet and tech in general have always been close to the center of capitalist power. He also draws a connection between Fukuyama’s end of historyTM and the techbro’s obsession with technocracy. The 90s represented the end of history, in the sense of conscious human activity towards self-actualization, and the beginning of technocracy, in the sense of technological improvements that’s aimed towards some techno-utopia. Or in simpler terms, the techbro believes that the human problem of politics has been completely solved with neoliberalism and in this transcendence from history and politics, all future problems are simply apolitical technological ones that will inevitably be solved with an apolitical technological solution.

        Seriously, go read the book. So many things about how techbros and Redditors think and act starts to make complete sense.