• The Quuuuuill@slrpnk.net
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    1 year ago

    Being pro Russia because you’re pro communist is so fucking weird to me. The Russian federation is an imperialist capitalist oligarchical fascist state.

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      1 year ago

      If you look at it from the idea that they see non-western or more specifically anti-american as good by default, then a lot of their positions make a lot more sense. I suspect that if the US became the perfect communist utopia theyd still be anti-American.

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        1 year ago

        They hate the US so much they have to bring it up continuously, everywhere and more so if the post has nothing to do with the US.

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          1 year ago

          And look. I get being critical of the US, we’re a mess, but the solution to the problems in our country isn’t a slightly different authoritarian regime

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            1 year ago

            Fucking seriously. I’m all for smashing the system, but those assholes have more in common with my racist Trump voting relatives than… you know… good people.

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            1 year ago

            It’s been almost two months since I got here, and I’m still not used to seeing blatantly nuanced and sensible views. I might be a little damaged.

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        1 year ago

        I get what you’re saying, but I disagree with “make a lot more sense”. It still doesn’t make logical sense, but this is how these people indeed think.

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          1 year ago

          Oh it doesnt make sense for anyone with any ampunt of logical reasoning, but it atleast give an explanation how their reasoning works.

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        1 year ago

        This is the correct take. They aren’t pro-Russia because they’re “communists”, they’re pro-Russia because they’re anti-west, even if that means looking the other way when there’s imperialism of the unexpected color.

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      1 year ago

      Being pro Russia because ‘own the left’ and ‘our guy has autocratic dreams’ is even weirder

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        1 year ago

        I swear to god it seemed like there was a massive shift in pro Russian sentiment when we all found out Russia had interfered in the 2016 election because

        1. Obama was doing sanctions about it and a certain group of people is always anti Obama, regardless of what that means, politically
        2. Russia had interfered on behalf of the guy they wanted, therefore Russian interference good
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      1 year ago

      Logic has no place in that weird mob mentality. They’re basically pro fascism, just you know the fascists that aren’t Western. Makes it good fascism somehow.

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      1 year ago

      Because they’re not communists, they’re just fascists that don’t like being called fascists.

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        1 year ago

        The lengths to which they cry just because people use the word “tankie” is ludicrous. They also have this custom to equate “tankie” and “communist” the same way not too politically literate right wingers do.

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          1 year ago

          Yeah it’s all down to the political spectrum bullshit. Far left and far right are complete opposite ends of the spectrum so therefore completely antithetical to one another!

          Meanwhile in the real world, fascists and communists (well at least the Leninist/Maoist/Stalinist ones) are all just authoritarians with slightly different rationalizations for it. I kinda feel like the only reason the concept of left/right political spectrum even exists is so some authoritarians in academic circles can claim to be nothing like the Nazis.