All smartphones, including iPhones, must have replaceable batteries by 2027 in the EU::undefined

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    1 year ago

    Definitely. Never understood why some manufacturers removed jacks

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      I personally prefer my bluetooth headphones, but it’s not like bluetooth and jacks can’t exist on the same device…

      Plus, pairing bluetooth in a car can be annoying as fuck. Looking at you, Nissan

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          BT pairing in our Ram works fine, and it works fine with the aftermarket Pioneer radio in my car. I’ve never had a major issue with either one with any phone I’ve owned, iPhone or Android.

          For our Mazda, though, BT pairing does not work reliably with my Samsung S21 - it’s okay for phone calls (in fact, the car “steals” my calls if I’m on the phone at home and my wife gets home with the car), but for music it almost never works correctly, unless I’m also using Android Auto, which is rare because I just don’t need it for most day-to-day drives. The BT phone and music works fine for my wife’s iPhone, though.

          I blame the car - my phone works just fine with several sets of Bluetooth headsets, and the other two car stereos. I think Mazda just didn’t bother to do any debugging before they shipped that piece of shit to the dealers. (This theory is based on other bugs we’ve found in the infotainment system as well.)

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          Because they do the bare minimum to meet the spec so that they could advertise it then. They still do the bare minimum now.

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        1 year ago

        Yeah I want a headphone jack, but the truth is that I can’t remember the last time I used mine. I have an old phone plugged into an old amp that I can play Spotify through, otherwise I use bt.

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        1 year ago

        Yeah, they could coexist. I’m partial to non-bluetooth, but only because they come in shapes that I find more comfortable, and I’ve yet to find bluetooth ones that don’t make my ears hurt

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      Money from selling true wireless earbuds was too enticing. Even Fairphone made them and removed headphone jack and spat nonsense that it was a “point of failure.”

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      The argument was saving space for other parts. That’s true in a way. But if things needed we should have this space. What’s next? Saving the space of the charger? /s

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      Headphone jacks are a 19th century invention, if having them restricts innovation then I am all for removing them.

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        We can’t only consider innovation today, we also have to consider its ecological impact. Jack plugs and headphones are way more durable than Bluetooth equivalent. I have 16 yo jack headset that still works perfectly, I only had to change the cushions twice.

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          It’s specifically the wire that always breaks first. How can they be more durable?

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            You can repair a broken cable fairly easily.

            When you buy wireless headphones you know upfront that they will die within a few years and you will not be able to replace the tiny glued in, oddly shaped batteries they come with.

            I like the convenience of BT at times, but I really miss having headphone jacks and hate having to bring adaptors with me.

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            If you can financially, buy (second-hand) higher-end material, it will come with stronger wires and stronger connections.
            For example, see the difference in the constraints damper on these connectors:

            vs Apple’s:

            Jack being simple technology, it’s also very easy to get it repaired by the nearby tech enthusiast armed with a soldering iron.

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          So stop making any technological advancement because of the potential impact of e-waste? Not saying it’s a bad thing but it will have have its own environmental implications. No new energy development, we have to rely on existing oil and nuclear technology rather than investing in making renewable energy sources cheaper and more efficient.

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            It’s not an either-or situation, we can do both at the same time, we just have to consider environmental impact as an essential component of innovation.

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            At the point we are at, yes we have to make a major change, e-waste is an immense problem for many years and we are only starting to fight it.

            Inventions not thinking about e-waste at all shouldn’t be allowed anymore.

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            What’s the practical alternative to headphone jacks? Bluetooth is crap and carrying around extra dongles is annoying.

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                Practical for some scenarios, but impractical in others. A headphone jack also offers better sound quality overall and a less flaky connection, with no audio cutouts. It’s not just latency, it’s a superior and more reliable way to transmit high quality audio. And there’s no battery to worry about charging. And a standard set of wired headphones can last for DECADES while a Bluetooth headset will start to die in about five years or less because the battery is non-replaceable lithium-ion. And there’s no concern about whether your wired headphones are optimized for Android or iPhone, it’s a standardized connector with an identical experience on both. And there’s no issue with wireless interference on the 2.4GHz band that Bluetooth operates on.

                I can come up with more if you want.

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        Technically 20th century, if I’m not mistaken? I just don’t see how they would restrict innovation, I guess

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            Interesting! It’s cool to know how stuff we use/used was developed

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            1 year ago

            By that logic let’s just replace the most superior household plug. The 3 pin UK plug.

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        A “19th century” technology that objectively produces better sound quality and uses less energy. And I already have wired earbuds and headsets.