• SnowdropDelusion@lemm.ee
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    So the reason I care is that every half-truth is a removed in the armor of the overall cause. Social and racial justice are incredibly important causes. When people make bold statements that aren’t entirely factual, the opposition points to them in order to discredit the cause as a whole. I want to persuade the persuadable by being factually correct whenever possible.

    I do understand your overall point though.

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      No it isn’t. What matters is what sounds convincing to other human beings and claiming, “They were watching a movie in bed, therefore they were not sleeping” is a non-issue in the minds of others at best. What matters is that she was in bed and unaware. She might as well have been sleeping.

      People do have common sense, you know

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        Look, I tend to believe that "common sense is nothing more than a deposit of prejudices laid down in the mind before you reach eighteen.”[1] People perceive the world differently from one another, and have different lived experiences. This is especially true for neurodivergent people when compared to people we might think of as neurotypical.

        “Breonna Taylor Was Asleep” is a factually inaccurate statement. The specifics may be a non-issue for you, but they might be a major holdup for someone who thinks differently.

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          And that’s why we compare experiences and share knowledge through debate to reach a consensus. Which is a fundamental part of common sense

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            Is it though? An appeal to common sense has been used to justify any number of horrors historically. It depends heavily on the culture you are in.

            Debate is most certainly used to persuade and test the strength of an argument. In debate, however, common sense is sometimes used in place of logical reasoning for things the speaker believes should simply be understood.

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              Every argument under the sun is used to justify atrocities. Common sense is what susses them out.

              Common sense is fundamental to being human and it’s all we have to rely on whether you like it or not. Demanding others ignore it is to make them complacent and supportive of atrocity. Common sense is what snaps people out of it.

              Now you can quibble about semantics all you want to, you just won’t do it to me. Trying to undermine the Breonna Taylor tragedy will get you nowhere… and we can see, with our common sense, that that is what’s happening here.

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                Let’s back up for a second.

                Can you definite what you understand “common sense” to be.

                Also, do you think “common sense” varies between cultures?