Higher rents were mostly offset by declining costs of goods such as motor vehicles and furniture.

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    You don’t want deflation, no. I know we all want to pay less for the things we buy, especially necessities, but if your grocery prices, in general, came down in price, there’s a good chance that’s a reflection of worse economic conditions.

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        In general, it has. That doesn’t mean your boss gave you a raise, personally. That doesn’t happen a whole lot in the grand scheme of things. But we’ve measured that as people have changed jobs, average wages have increased.

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          Then why are only non-essentials like furniture coming down in price? Seems to me that nobody’s got any money to buy that stuff because everybody can barely afford rent and food, what with all the price gouging and wages not going up.

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            Interest rates are high, and large purchases like furniture and vehicles are typically bought on credit. So what may have been a lower monthly payment with hardly any money going toward interest is now significantly more interest and a high enough monthly payment to make you reconsider the purchase.

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      Prices go up, wages stay down; that’s how it’s supposed to work. Prices going down? My God, imagine things being more affordable!??!! It would break everything if people could afford their necessities. If people didn’t struggle for survival, they could start thinking about how things are being done, and how they could be done differently. So the answer is obvious: everything has to be made worse, continuously and iteratively worse over time. That’s the plan and it’s the best we can do, we are told. Isn’t strange how all of these market rules always favor the rich? Why do we have to do this over and over and over? Just for the rich.

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        If prices generally went down across the board, it would be indicative of producers being unable to sell their products, which means they produce less, which means they lay people off, which means we’re all out of work, which means we have no jobs or money, which means that a rich person’s incentive is to keep their money in a giant pile and not actually circulate it in the economy. With a little bit of inflation, the prices of things are stable enough for the average person to use currency without resorting to a barter system, and the rich person needs to invest their money in order to avoid the guarantee that they lose the value of that money to inflation. The report that we’re reading and commenting on shows a small real wage growth, meaning wages growing faster than inflation.

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          If prices generally went down across the board, it would be indicative of …

          This is always what gets said. The real truth is that prices can go up and down for a lot of reasons and this line gets used as an excuse for our attempt-infinite-growth economic mindset.

          … shows a small real wage growth, meaning wages growing faster than inflation

          This is due to the (temporary) shift of power to the workers during the pandemic. I personally believe this “inflation” we’re experiencing now is a direct reprisal for that very small and very late wage increase. Profits are soaring all over, but belts are being tightened for (seemingly unknowable reasons) coming down from C level.

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            I recommend you do some digging into economics as to why we avoid deflationary environments and why that is always said. Remember also that profits are measured against a currency whose value has been eroded by inflation as well. Inflation is a fact of life. No need to put it in quotes.

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      For things that went up 50% due to gouging and not inflation, like a lot of groceries, yes, we want that to go down.

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        We had one. The inflationary environment we ended up in as a result of the US government’s actions was considered preferable to a deflationary event.