Canvas is available for Lemmy!
This is similar to reddit’s /r/place. Each user gets to place a pixel on a canvas. The pixels are refreshed every 30 seconds.
The website with the canvas is: https://canvas.toast.ooo/
To log-in, you simply provide your instance’s name and your username, and you get a code to log-in.
I have made a template for making an XNO flag. You can reach it by clicking here.
In the settings there is a button that allows you to toggle the tample on/off. You can use that button to make sure that you are placing the pixel in an unoccupied spot.
https://canvas.toast.ooo/profile?action=factions
there’s a faction function, not sure what it does
If you shift + click on a pixel, you can see who placed that pixel, and you can also see their faction. I think the faction is a way for users to label themselves as part of a team, but it doesn’t have any special additional mechanic associated with it.
very cool! how long does this last? it’s charging up an idea i’ve had for a while though, basically a permanent nano canvas where each pixel could be claimed by an address and balance. and then if you take someone’s pixel, there could be a bidding war or something like that. you get your nano back + some extra and then they claim your pixel for themselves. so i guess it would be some type of free market canvas? lots of possibilities there.
basically evolve the OG version https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Million_Dollar_Homepage
Oooooh I get what you mean, that’s a very good idea!
how long does this last
I think the canvas lasts until Sunday night
One scary thing about the nano-based canvas is that maybe at some point the person hosting that doesn’t want to host it anymore. But every person who owns a pixel paid for it… They didn’t pay the person hosting the site, so it is not fair to ask that the site hoster pays them back. What happens then?
What I’m thinking is that it might be possible to do this but using NFTs. So, let’s say that you have a 100 x 100 canvas, and 10,000 NFTs, each one corresponding to a pixel. So the NFTs map to the list of pixels Canvas(0,0), Canvas(1,0), Canvas(2,0)… and the owner of the NFT gets to pick the color. Since these NFTs live on the blockchain, there is no single person ‘hosting’ the canvas. Anyone can set up an instance and display the canvas by pulling the information from the NFTs.
I haven’t studied deeply the NFTs, so I don’t know how easy it is to associate a label with the color to them.
Yeah, still hashing out the details, my go-to question is: but what if i died? That implementation could make sense and along the train of thought I have been on previously. Other things I’ve contemplated is having these 100x100s as time-bound, so you would periodically refresh them and they would eventually get concretized as a singular entity. Thoughts I’ve had today, could you track & sell the rights to this, is that even a good idea,+ and what’s the resolution of custom clothing printing? Ultimately I’m coming from the direction of how does a creation inspire communities to create more and sustain it/themselves. I don’t really care that much personally about making a large profit, not that there’s anything bad with that, I just get more personal fulfillment from the former goal.
I guess we’re juggling multiple concepts atm… could you even skirt the whole payment thing with just rep changes instead? I can’t calculate exactly how that would play out rn, but imagine using 1 seed, generating a bunch of accounts under that, publicize those & associating them to the pixels, and you could monitor the largest rep for each of those accounts? Seems to work for website duplication/experimentation if the code is open-source, you could change the accounts at will. This kind of bleeds into another concept that I think nano is really suited for, which is I would call an interactive network monitor? What I find interesting about this concept is it actually doesn’t require any extra input at all, people could use nano as is for regular economic activity, and you could have these metalayers that are actually just adding/extracting more value 2 those, essentially it’s seeding another layer with the previous layer’s entropy? I think we’re just scratching the surface here…
you could monitor the largest rep for each of those accounts
I got lost in this part of the argument. What do you mean? The “rep” as in an account’s representative? The account representative is decided by the account owner, and there is only one rep per account. I think I’m misunderstanding what you mean.
delegator, sorry
Aaaah thank you for the clarification. Now I follow the logic!
The RGB representation color of the pixel can be passed as the last nine digits of the amount delegated. The 8-bit RGB value is expressed as (R,G,B) where R, G, and B are numbers between 0 and 255. So if I want to set a pure yellow pixel (255,0,255) I can delegate “1.000000000000000000000255000255” to the account that controls that pixel.
There might be a more user-friendly format to achieve this, but this is the most straight-forward implementation I can think of. A choice can be made to have a more specific format to reject un-formatted amounts and this way prevent accidental black pixels being placed.
As to the “interactive network monitor”, can you expand on that? It is not obvious to me what you mean with that. Would this canvas be an example of such type of monitoring?
Thank you guys for helping us!
No problem! I wasn’t sure about how to help fix the bitcoin because the template is a bit more complex, but if I see that it’s attacked again I’ll help! _
Also, I think small attacks are at the edge of what the rules allow, but if users starts attacking in masse or using multiple accounts to attack quickly - to the point that it is not even fun to try to defend because it is impossible - then you can report the attackers to the canvas admins and they’ll be removed from the game.
I’m not sure whether whose lemmy instance is not configured properly, but your older comments don’t show up on our end. Our admin is offline, I’ll see if I can get in touch with him
I think that the federation is working. What tends to happen is that comments that were posted before anyone from an instance has suscribed will not be copied to that other instance. Even if a specific post is pulled, the comments are not.
Since I set up this instance only recently, probably no one from monero.town was or is subscribed to !nanogarden@nano.garden, so the comments were never fetched.
Okey, then me subscribing to you might have fixed the issue already
Thanks! Yes, I think so. In the future posts will be automatically copied to monero.town, and the new comments will also arrive.
not sure what the bitcoiners are up to, but there’s two main ones: mubelotix & Aelorius from @jai.lu, they keep whittling away at the nyano. i didn’t help them last night when randoms were attacking them because they’ve been pretty consistent at using spare pixels to attack poor nyano. most of my time has been spent grinding this rainbow and transitioned to zelda / majora’s mask here
Haha, ok! I’ll stop defending the Nyano cat then
Nooo i think the triforce guy might want to use it as as shield?
…hear me out…shooting a lil rainbow through monero at bitcoin 😹
I won’t to contribute to putting things through other people’s drawings, I don’t like that, even if they are being mean. But if you give me the template of the cat I can help defend it
it’s a bit ad hoc, i’ve mainly just been defending the general form; so far that + sign has never been attacked. last nite i took a screenshot of the main nyano image and tried to shrink it. currently my settings are horizontal position 289 vertical 126 width 19 with this image.
Is there a reason why you want the cat there? I can help you re-build it somewhere else! Or are you having fun fighting? If so I just hope it is fun for everyone involved 😅
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