- cross-posted to:
- genzedong@lemmygrad.ml
- genzhouarchive@lemmygrad.ml
- cross-posted to:
- genzedong@lemmygrad.ml
- genzhouarchive@lemmygrad.ml
u/CMDR_VegShiva - originally from r/GenZhou
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u/SietchJacurutu - originally from r/GenZhou
There’s also real life organising.u/Based_grandma69 - originally from r/GenZhou
The internet is a useful tool for making community with comrades around the globe and in places where communism is suppressed, but of course we need to engage more than ever IRL.u/Leviation_ - originally from r/GenZhou
What, you guys gonna storm Reddit headquarters to make them restore Genzedong?u/SietchJacurutu - originally from r/GenZhou
Organising in real life need not involve Gen Zedong at allu/Leviation_ - originally from r/GenZhou
Honestly with all this talk of organising strikes and all that, no meaningful action has been taken from the far left to further their cause.u/KinkCrimson - originally from r/GenZhou
Do you expect a working class revolution to happen out of nowhere? This shows a clear lack of understanding of the marxist perspectiveu/Leviation_ - originally from r/GenZhou
Well the QAnon movement came out of nowhere as well, and even they did more in 4-5 years than the far left ever did in around the same time frameu/KinkCrimson - originally from r/GenZhou
Yean no shit far right and right wing movements will have a much easier time “achieving” things in the imperial core, that is because left wing movements are repressed. If you don’t focus on America, you will realize how much class conscioussness has risen in the world.u/Leviation_ - originally from r/GenZhou
Also probably because majority of the far left are too young to vote. :P
u/DevilSympathy - originally from r/GenZhou
Why are you here? Fuck off.u/Leviation_ - originally from r/GenZhou
Why can’t i be here? Why are leftists so unwelcomingu/DevilSympathy - originally from r/GenZhou
Because you’re part of an enormous horde of brainless Americans and if we committed our time trying to educate people like you we’d never do anything else. We’d all be much happier if you simply left and never returned.
u/FuriousTank - originally from r/GenZhou
But i dont like the UX of it…u/CMDR_VegShiva - originally from r/GenZhou
https://github.com/LemmurOrg/lemmuru/Logan_Maddox - originally from r/GenZhou
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u/RedDeadlifts - originally from r/GenZhou
What is the point in lemmygrad? The advantage of Genzedong on Reddit is crossposting and attracting people to the page and converting them to the ideology.What does creating a separate space for Genzedong users achieve? It’s a place to hang out with other MLs and post memes sure - but you can do that with real life organising
Or ‘touch grass’ as the kids say
u/s1syphean - originally from r/GenZhou
Because we should and have to conceive of Reddit being a transient step towards federated platforms.Federated platforms are the future and we should invest in them now, partially by forming pipelines to it in the presently dominant forum.
Commenting here for visibility - Lemmygrad is more than just a knock-off subreddit replacement. Let us actively leverage Lemmy’s federative structure in our favor.
Right now, the bulk of the activity on Lemmygrad is happening in one community: lemmygrad.ml/c/genzedong. This is expected and completely normal. We are in the immediate aftermath of a mass exodus away from one of the last large, explicit bastions of anti-imperialism and communism on Reddit, and in our haste to settle we have made and populated /c/genzedong, and, in doing so, recreated the home we were familiar with: a all-purpose hub designed to be a seat of ML engagement. However, while familiar, many unfavorable structural features forced upon us by merely existing on Reddit have carried over with us. We became desensitized to the less-than-ideal compromises we made to have a presence on Reddit, and, now that we have stepped outside into greener pastures, our eyes have not quite adjusted to the new opportunities to aid our cause. Let’s accelerate the acclimation!
TL;DR: We are no longer constrained from things as simple as outletting frustration by wishing death on Nazis to the more impactful, such as the freedom to actively organize and brigade. There are myriad new ways we can better equip ourselves for the long fight with the tools and technology Lemmy’s federalized structure offers us. We should lean into these changes quickly.
To contribute to this process (which is happening and will continue to happen whether or not we expedite it), I will outline a niche of optimization yet unexplored:
Lemmygrad is already the /r/genzedong equivalent that /c/genzedong is trying to be.
Lemmygrad is an instance of the Lemmy structure. Lemmy instances can be thought of as what subreddits would be if they were hosted on their own separate domain/websites. More accurately, you can also think of Lemmy instances as what Reddit would look like if you could just copy Reddit’s code, buy a domain, and make your own version of Reddit that you own and administrate, instead of some large company in San Fransisco that can delete you and your forum off of their site for stating that there was no massacre in Tiananmen Square. Consequently, we need to treat Lemmygrad as if we stumbled upon an unoccupied yet functional Reddit domain, with full subreddit capability.
We are no longer forced to view /c/genzedong as a catch-all forum for every possible ML post, as a de-facto standard-bearer and home for those posts that have no better place to be posted. As we grow, we should periodically fracture off posts by purpose into new, focused communities.
Among some already-implemented ideas to spark this transition:
- a /r/worldnews equivalent that isn’t a hellscape of propaganda as a place for the /r/genzedong posts about significant global developments:
- lemmygrad.ml/c/worldnews
- lemmygrad.ml/c/us_news
- lemmy.ml/c/worldnews (bigger but in the main, non-communist instance)
- a community just for the types of post that were only allowed on ‘lib cringe weekend’
- a brigading launch-point community aimed at agitation and propaganda
- a pipeline receptacle community to catch new users entering Lemmygrad, where questions can be asked and educational resources are easily accessible
What You Should Do Right Now
- Browse through Lemmygrad’s ever-growing list of communities (subreddit equivalents) and subscribe to and engage with those that interest you.
- Create your own communities to fill important niches we were prevented from imagining at Reddit.
- Link this post to all places that contain people disenfranchised and disillusioned by Reddit’s looming ban of /r/genzedong (e.g. Reddit, Discord, Telegram, Element, etc…). We need to advertise why Lemmygrad is more than just a knock-off subreddit replacement that will be forgotten about in a month. Moreover, we should aim towards reaching appreciation of the unique opportunities Lemmy presents for the people already inside the community.
- a /r/worldnews equivalent that isn’t a hellscape of propaganda as a place for the /r/genzedong posts about significant global developments:
u/vibe-juice - originally from r/GenZhou
There are those of us who live in rural shitholes and can’t organize in real life. The closest socialist party for me is a several hour drive away.So alternate online forms of Marxist Leninist communities are much better for keeping ourselves informed.