• sadreality@kbin.social
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    1 year ago

    Stalin did because he did not like free willing peasants as they were a threat to the regime. Tankie will worship Stalin and won’t acknowledge the atrocity then expects to be taken seriously talking about Nazis or US or France etc…

    Nobody is defended western atrocities, you are here trying to explain away Stalin’s… we have not even gotten to Mao or one of your other beloved daddies.

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      1 year ago

      That logic about Stalin destroying the farms himself doesn’t even work. The country needed the farms and crops as much as any other country building an army. Are you gonna say next that he ordered the eating of babies and kicking of dogs?

      I’m not Stalinist btw, but history has facts, and landowners who were having their farms taken and wanted to make the communist party’s life harder are a fact. Bourgeoisie will be bourgeoisie no matter which country.

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        1 year ago

        so taking grain from starving families for dissent control was just a price you are willing to pay?

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          Starving families =/= massive landowners. The ones hit by the famine were the families working for the landowners, most of them owned no land at all. If you want to blame someone, blame rich folks being pissy about not being able to exploit families on their farms anymore

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              1 year ago

              Likewise. I’d like to see how your “version of the facts” goes on the eastern countries. Have a good day.

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                  1 year ago

                  I know about how you, all the way from the west, consuming only western media and participating in western politics, knows more about the east than eastern folks themselves. All the eastern countries and the global south know about what western people believe.