Doomers keep saying we are stuffed. They may be right and definitely will be right if we do nothing.

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    Little people aren’t the ones burning bunker fuel on cargo ships, subsidizing the oil and gas industry, or obstructing the development and deployment of better modes of transportation.

    This message of “change your ways” is a distraction from the actual culprits of global warming—a distraction for which those planet-wrecking polluters are no doubt silently thanking you for.

    Regulate the rich. Everything else is a distraction and will not save us.

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      Regulate the rich. Everything else is a distraction and will not save us.

      Simplistic answers don’t help.

      Who are the rich?

      Do you consider yourself one of the rich that need regulating?

      To the majority of the world’s population every person who lives in a western democracy is one of the rich who need regulating.

      I don’t own or dive a car and haven’t for a decade. Yet my impact (as miniscule as it is) is still 4 or 5 times that of the average person in India. To them, I am part of the problem.

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        Who are the rich?

        Start with whoever owns those cargo ships.

        Do you consider yourself one of the rich that need regulating?

        I do not own any cargo ships.

        I did not obstruct the development of electric vehicles.

        I did not obstruct the construction of nuclear, solar, and wind power plants.

        I did not forbid mixed zoning, which would decrease commute distance and therefore fuel consumption.

        I did not outsource any manufacturing overseas.

        So no.

        To the majority of the world’s population every person who lives in a western democracy is one of the rich who need regulating.

        Then they aren’t thinking too hard about who does what. Some people, such as tycoons, NIMBYs, and Republican voters, are part of the problem. Others are not. These are individuals, not countries.

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          Circling back to what I said about the doomers:

          The major part of not having to change their behaviour is Still supporting and voting the people who are ignoring the problems and stopping systematic change

          That is why they are a problem I think we are both in agreement on.

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      Who do you think consumes the goods on those cargo ships? It’s us. It’s all of us.

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        We were not given a choice as to whether our goods come from cargo ships. It’s either buy from cargo ship or go hungry.

        This is the result of another issue that must be solved: the systematic underpayment of the working class. People used to be paid enough that they could afford domestically-made goods, and a house, and children. Not so much any more.

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          You won’t get any argument from me on that. It’s frustrating to say the least. House prices have gone up 300% in 3 years where I live.