- cross-posted to:
- theandrocollection@lemm.ee
- cross-posted to:
- theandrocollection@lemm.ee
Our mobile devices listen to and collect a significant amount of data on us, even without using our microphones.
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The messed up part is that it should not be complicated at all. It should be simply “no.” And it isn’t, so we have a problem
It is essentially a no. Read the article.
Okay, I read the article. It isn’t “essentially” a no. It’s “let’s believe that google and apple wouldn’t let this data be misused.”
As well as several paragraphs about a three-person study (wtf), and an inconclusive one, for no apparent reason other than to underscore “we just don’t know”. Then they give paragraphs over to Apple and Google for them to repeat their claims that everything’s just fine-and that’s it. That’s the article.
So it’s “essentially no” if you believe google wouldn’t harvest your data or that intelligence agencies and hackers can’t or wouldn’t listen in.
TL;DR, go into the Privacy settings of your phone and disable everything that uses it - that’s the best you can do.
It’s “let’s believe that google and apple wouldn’t let this data be misused."
This is only valid for your specific voice commands. They’re of course transmitted to and processed on their servers. That’s something they could misuse, yes, but that’s not what the article is about. The article is about whether your phone always listens to you, and there’s no proof of it. People are repeating this claim all the time, but no one has come up with a proof. If you think about it also doesn’t make any sense at all. This would cause so much data usage, people would have definitely noticed that at some point. The storage and processing requirements on Googles / Amazons part would also be ridiculous. But no matter how you look at it, it’s up to someone who makes a claim to prove that it’s true, that called the burden of proof and no one has managed to come up with a proof so far.
Are we talking about data science??
There needs to be strict regulation on models used specifically for user manipulation and advertising. Through statistics, these guys know more about you than you do. That’s why it feels like they are listening in.
Can we have more focus and education around data analysis and public influence? Right now the majority of people don’t even know there is a battle of knowledge and influence that they are losing.
I don’t know why people keep thinking that phones are listening in on every conversation just so they can advertise ‘Volvo’ at you.
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they don’t need to - we give them loads of data voluntarily based on location data, what we search for, things we buy, things we ‘like’ on social media…
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they’d be stung for huge fines and reputational damage if caught doing it.
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it’d take enormous storage and processing power to manage all that data.
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Just think about how many things you talk about every day that you’ve never then seen an advert for (confirmation bias)
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my Google Home can’t understand me when I’m actually talking directly at it asking it a question, so the idea it can seripticiously pick out words while listening through my pocket is implausible.
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No it’s not. No. This place is the fox news for the left and privacy crazies. You people have done more harm to privacy with your boy who cried wolf bullshit than anybody else. Constant misrepresentation, baseless claims, and constant red flags which have eroded any credibility there message had left.
one of the test participants, who talked repeatedly about Volvo, did report that they were bombarded by advertising for the brand. This person did not even own a car, nor had they searched the Internet to buy a Volvo or any other kind of car.
Oh right, they definitely found so super secret spying functionally that armies of security researcher have missed. They must be super hackers or some shit 🤦♂️
Lemmy is a bunch of privacy-ignorant dorks. This post is just going to attract more of the dummies.
