I’m happy to see this being noticed more and more. Google wants to destroy the open web, so it’s a lot at stake.

Google basically says “Trust us”. What a joke.

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      Yes exactly. This is what worries me the most since I also run only Linux, and I can’t imagine even being interested in computers anymore if Linux is not allowed on the web. That would be horrific.

      It’s 100% critically dangerous and must be stopped.

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          They’ve needed to be broken up for over a decade now, but that’d require the government to actually enforce antitrust/monopoly laws

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            The FTC is apparently going after Amazon, so I’d be curious to see how that goes

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              Yup. It’s the first FTC in a long time that’s even tried to do their job. Really hoping they have success.

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        What really disturbs me is how the recent tech shenanigans have been a long time coming; seems the internet we have come to know for the last 15 years only existed thanks to the ridiculous interest rates post 2008.

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          I’d be interested to hear more of your theory on this:

          the internet we have come to know for the last 15 years only existed thanks to the ridiculous interest rates post 2008.

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            I think this article from the Verge explains it pretty well.

            tl;dr:

            • The Fed kept interest rates low from 2008 to 2021. Low interest rates made it easier to borrow money and meant that debt-backed investments like bonds had a low return, so investors favored stocks for a better yield on their investment.
            • This meant tech companies could borrow a ton of money at low interest rates and raise a ton of money from investors through stock sales, allowing them to build services that weren’t profitable in order to grow as rapidly as possible. This basically defined the internet as we know it today - big companies offering free/cheap services with minimal restrictions. Companies could afford to charge low fees and look the other way on things like ad blockers.
            • However, now that interest rates are going up, borrowing is much more expensive and investors are less motivated to buy stock, so all that easy money has dried up. Companies are having to raise revenue by increasing prices, adding more ads, blocking ad blockers, etc.
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            Online services cost a lot of money. People don’t realize how much because VCs and corpos w/ deep pockets have been subsidizing most major services for a long time. Now that the free money period is more-or-less over, these services need to start paying the bills with their users - commence enshittification

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              Well it’s not that they “need to pay bills” they make plenty money to pay bills with the revenue they already earn. The issue is that capitalism demands not just profits, but continually increasing profits each quarter.

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      “All Google associated platforms hereby block all ios devices.”

      I am not a fan of apple. But this would piss a lot of people off but is well within their ability and rights to do. And unfortunately they have enough of a monopoly with the internet (Google, youtube, and all the other sites served through their dns) that they can essentially break the internet for people they block. They would get 90% of those ios users to switch to Android.

      The flow of information through the internet is one of the greatest advancements of man kind and we have to trust a massive cooperation not to destroy it.

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        You underestimate the willingness of iOS users to tolerate a sub-par experience in exchange for their fancy walled garden ecosystem.

        Just the os alone is restrictive as hell, and they don’t care.

        Could they do it? Maybe. But it would be profoundly stupid of them to try.

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          Your high-horse opinion of Apple users aside, you are right that OP is greatly overestimating people’s commitment to google’s services over their iPhones.

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            I mean he’s kinda right. I’ve seen starving, rabid dogs go at road kill with less intensity than an apple user at a “new” apple invention.

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            I am an apple user, but I was on android up until last year. It’s more an observation based on conversations I’ve had before and after switching than anything.

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            Apple already has attestation in safari, so why would any major companies exclude them when they offer it also?

            Google would be really stupid to try to exclude apple os, because apple has safari. They would lose their iOS users, iOS users wouldn’t become android users.

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        The fact that they have that much of a monopoly is exactly why it isn’t legal, but those laws are basically never enforced

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        I am not a fan of apple. But this would piss a lot of people off but is well within their ability and rights to do.

        That’s a goddamn lie. They absolutely DO NOT have the “right” to engage in behavior that blatantly anti-competitive!

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        Nah, this is the dumpster fire needed to get people motivated about actually enforcing anti trust laws. People are apathetic well beyond when stuff affects them. It takes some serious harm to people for them to do anything.

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      Funny how services that used to work transparently, no longer do.

      VPN? Works with some sites, not others. Same with email. Can just see the big G wading into that and the waters being royally roiled.

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        Legislate against and use anti-trust law to destroy companies that act like this. Boycotts, while not a bad idea, aren’t even close to sufficient.

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      I guess if such things were to concretise, alternative ways would rise. Slowly and far less efficient than the Google engine, but I guess there is always a solution. Maybe a network of relay, like VPN but for accesing Google domains ? I know it would be far from perfect…