A 33-year-old Turkish man, known as the “Suicide Traveler,” attempted to take his life for the 232nd time by climbing to the rooftop of a five-story building in Manavgat, Antalya.
Carrying a knife, a noose, and a plastic bottle filled with gasoline, his actions caused panic among passersby. Emergency responders, including police, firefighters, and medics, rushed to the scene to de-escalate the situation.
During negotiations, the man admitted he was extremely hungry. Officers promptly ordered him a shawarma (döner kebab), which led him to abandon his suicide attempt.
According to Turkish media, the man has gained notoriety for his repeated suicide attempts across the country, earning him the nickname “Suicide Traveler.” Despite continuous rescue efforts and psychological support, he persists in his tragic endeavors.
But if he’s being kept in a hospital, as in against his will, that is a cage. Apologies if that isn’t what you meant with that wording.
You understand that crazy people don’t usually realize they’re crazy right? Society has an obligation to both protect the herd and help individuals. This guy acting belligerently is neither good for the individual nor the herd. I don’t think anything good comes from “let the crazy people be crazy”.
I understand the sentiment behind wanting to protect someone from themselves, but I don’t think society has the right to override the rights of others for their own good. We don’t lock up obese people or alcoholics or ban anyone from risky adventures. I think if you want to help people you must do so on their terms and with their consent.
We don’t lock up obese people because they aren’t generally a harm to others due to their obesity other than requiring superfluous healthcare. All we can do for cases like that is teach the public about the health complications. We regularly confine alcoholics when they pose a danger to the public or themselves. We also fine and in cases detain people who explicitly ignore danger signs on privately and government owned property to avoid stupid liability cases. You seem to have a very skewed view on mental health. It is not ok for someone to attempt suicide 200+ times and tie up first responders in a repetitive bogus mental health crisis. If someone really wants to kill themself, they don’t make a show of it or allow anyone to stop them, it’s incredible easy for someone end their life so when I hear that someone “attempted” it 200+ times, that is a clear cry for help.
I’m not saying it’s okay for him to waste resources, but they can just stop trying to stop him if they want. They could even legalize euthanasia of they really want to test him. He has access to help according to the article.
With regard to obesity, I don’t really understand the difference between killing yourself quickly because of poor health and killing yourself slowly because of poor health. Nobody gets to the point of being immobile because they’re doing great, but we still don’t forcibly control them.
We temporarily confine intoxicated people and/or escort them home because public intoxication is generally illegal. Alcoholism isn’t something I’ve heard of someone being held for against their will. I’ve heard of repeat offenders being assigned mandatory rehab, but that’s not something you get for being drunk at home or for ending up in the ER with alcohol poisoning.
We don’t allow people to do dangerous things that might be a liability issue, but it’s completely legal to dive in caves and jump out of planes and climb Everest, even though you could be injured or die. We’re not trying to protect people from themselves; we’re trying to protect ourselves from their lawsuit.
“they can just stop trying to stop him if they want”
Thats exactly what I said in my first comment here. I said they have to either decide he’s full of shit or send him for help. If you go respond to someone who’s full of shit and pulled the same attention seeking behavior 200+ times, you’re going to have to expect the next time it happens to be bullshit attention seeking again.
I’m not even going to bother with the rest of it because we are talking in circles and you already agree with my original premise that they need to either decide this guy is full of shit or send him to a clinic.