Obviously reporting transphobic comments to a transphobic mod isn’t going to result in any action, so I’m wondering if the admins are going to do anything about it?

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  • bayesianbandit@lemm.ee
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    You know what? As a woman who’s had a sex change, I am so tired. I could not give a shit about this mods opinions or any of this topic from anybody.

    It’s quite simply a topic that loses us support for emotional gut vibe reasons that have nothing to do with rationality. And for what?

    I’ve never played women’s sports. Nobody trans I’ve ever met plays women’s sports because we’re all fucking afraid of it and always have been.

    We are less than 1% of the population and of that 1% maybe 1% is anywhere near ballsy enough to even begin to try in this environment let alone having the resources to try competing on top of much more pressing matters like surgeries and hormones.

    Are these people ignorant and on the wrong side of history here? Absolutely.

    Have transsex people been playing sports for decades without issue and without dominating even one out of hundreds of different sports? Absolutely.

    Are they just making shit up about transsex bodies based off nothing but unchecked stereotypes and ignorance because they only ever notice the most visible and non-passing ones and have no idea how many of us are stealth? 1000% you betcha.

    Could whatever nuanced future issues be resolved by simply introducing additional classes according to measurable biological traits like weight or shoulder span in the few cases where perhaps one day there will be reason to? Yepppp.

    Is this whole conversation actually just misogynistic control over women’s bodies that will ultimately harm quantitatively more cis women than trans women? Yep!! And they are better poised to tackle that than us when it does.

    And yet? I want everybody to shut up about it because we have far more pressing issues at hand. When it comes to women’s sports the public has made up their mind and the facts don’t matter.

    We’re losing access to life saving medical care, being deplatformed, and criminalized for existing in public and y’all still think this is about pointless debates over sports. The public does not have much bandwidth in their minds to spare on us & it’s imperative we get off this topic.

    If someone thinks I’m a “biological male” who shouldn’t play women’s sports I don’t frankly care. As long as they don’t interfere with us building robust community organizations to ensure everybody has means to survive the Nazis in coming years, it’s fine.

    Frankly they can call me a biological male all day if they want to deliver some hormones to a girl who needs them. They’d still be stupid and wrong but at least useful then.

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      I think the trans women who are passionate about their sport disagree with you. Why would you just be okay with letting someone literally lose their hobby or even career over their gender? It’s dehumanizing.

      I don’t see what harm this conversation has. People who aren’t terrible will be better educated and people who are terrible weren’t trans allies in the first place. What have we lost?

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      Frankly they can call me a biological male all day if they want to deliver some hormones to a girl who needs them.

      You know they’re going to stop that, right? They’re not going to allow people to transition at all if they get their way.

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      And yet? I want everybody to shut up about it because we have far more pressing issues at hand. When it comes to women’s sports the public has made up their mind and the facts don’t matter.

      So do I, which is why I reported those comments to be removed, but then realised that the only mod in the community agrees, and so they wouldn’t only not be removed, but more of them would be encouraged, which I think is unacceptable, especially if the instance hosting them has rules against bigotry, which is what this is.

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      Literally nobody in the trans community cares about this topic until conservatives discovered it was effective.

      🙇🏻‍♀️🙇🏻‍♀️🙇🏻‍♀️

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        I wound up revising that part out on my second read. But for anyone reading this quote yes I did that in my OG post. And it’s true I just didn’t feel it flowed with the rest of what I wrote