Most of your problems are probably down to NVIDIA 🙁
Possibly, but it doesn’t really change that things that just work on Windows (e.g. your preferred choice of GPU and games) doesn’t on Linux.
As for wine settings, why are you messing with wine when you have steam? Are your games supported?
Admittedly, I only tried 2 games on steam. One worked flawlessly. The other one was Red Alert 2 that does not work flawlessly even on modern Windows.
Most of my games are either on GOG or even more often, just random exe downloads from patreon and such since they are small games still in development.
The last category is what required a lot of messing with wine. Those also tend to not be listed on ProtonDB. I am still testing, installed Bottles yesterday to see if that helps.
Possibly, but it doesn’t really change that things that just work on Windows (e.g. your preferred choice of GPU and games) doesn’t on Linux.
Sure, but that’s like saying that windows doesn’t work well on a raspberrypi. You put an operating system on badly supported hardware and you’re going to have problems. Not much windows or linux can do about that. The major difference in this case is that the issue is with the hardware vendor NVIDIA, the trillion dollar company that ignored and refused to support Linux for more than a decade.
Admittedly, I only tried 2 games on steam. One worked flawlessly. The other one was Red Alert 2 that does not work flawlessly even on modern Windows.
It needs a tweak to run on ProtonDB for Red Alert 2. As for the other things, yeah, it’s understandable that it doesn’t work well on linux. Unfortunately, they are made specifically for windows and in development. Some of them could work if they’re written in (I think) Unity or Unreal Engine which have a simple toggle to compile for linux. Maybe sending a quick message to the developer to tick that box could help.
Sure, but that’s like saying that windows doesn’t work well on a raspberrypi. You put an operating system on badly supported hardware and you’re going to have problems. Not much windows or linux can do about that. The major difference in this case is that the issue is with the hardware vendor NVIDIA, the trillion dollar company that ignored and refused to support Linux for more than a decade.
Again, I have hardware that I am selecting an OS for. What do I care how it runs on HW I don’t have or whose fault it is?
Yeah, since most people have a circular hole just like me, I am telling them that Linux does not fit. What is strange about that? Especially in the context of the original comment I relied to about people moving to Linux from Windows due to end of support.
You can use Heroic Launcher to manage all your other games (including loose ones) and libraries (Epic, GOG, and Prime), all in one place. You shouldn’t ever really need to mess with Wine settings, unless you’re running something strange (like Red Alert 2, like you said. Old games don’t run well on modern Windows, so you’ll need to mess with things to get it working possibly.)
Yeah, I tried Commandos a while ago and it just worked (it required a patch for modern resolutions though). Meanwhile on Windows it’s a mess. They may require some tinkering, but it’s not like the Windows experience is good either. It’s often better getting away from the mess that Windows created.
You can add any exe to steam library and set there to hae proton to run it. The hard ones are those that have a setup.exe, there you have to change the path to exe that is to be executed after you have run the setup exe using steam. The correct exe can be found in the corresponding c drive hidden deep in your home dotfiles.
I agree that games for windows are more easy to run on windows. Only fair comparison is, comparing it how windows handle running Linux games/software. One can say, yea, there is WSL. But you can do exactly the same on Linux using a windows VM and RDP to draw the program window directly into a window in your display manager.
You can add any exe to steam library and set there to hae proton to run it. The hard ones are those that have a setup.exe, there you have to change the path to exe that is to be executed after you have run the setup exe using steam. The correct exe can be found in the corresponding c drive hidden deep in your home dotfiles.
Thanks for the tip.
I agree that games for windows are more easy to run on windows. Only fair comparison is, comparing it how windows handle running Linux games/software. One can say, yea, there is WSL. But you can do exactly the same on Linux using a windows VM and RDP to draw the program window directly into a window in your display manager
I don’t really care about what is fair. I care how well the OS can do what I want it to do. I have never seen a Game that run on Linux but not on Windows, so this is irrelevant to me. Playing Windows games is one of my use-cases. If windows is better at it, I don’t really care why.
Most of your problems are probably down to NVIDIA 🙁
As for wine settings, why are you messing with wine when you have steam? Are your games supported?
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Possibly, but it doesn’t really change that things that just work on Windows (e.g. your preferred choice of GPU and games) doesn’t on Linux.
Admittedly, I only tried 2 games on steam. One worked flawlessly. The other one was Red Alert 2 that does not work flawlessly even on modern Windows.
Most of my games are either on GOG or even more often, just random exe downloads from patreon and such since they are small games still in development.
The last category is what required a lot of messing with wine. Those also tend to not be listed on ProtonDB. I am still testing, installed Bottles yesterday to see if that helps.
Sure, but that’s like saying that windows doesn’t work well on a raspberrypi. You put an operating system on badly supported hardware and you’re going to have problems. Not much windows or linux can do about that. The major difference in this case is that the issue is with the hardware vendor NVIDIA, the trillion dollar company that ignored and refused to support Linux for more than a decade.
It needs a tweak to run on ProtonDB for Red Alert 2. As for the other things, yeah, it’s understandable that it doesn’t work well on linux. Unfortunately, they are made specifically for windows and in development. Some of them could work if they’re written in (I think) Unity or Unreal Engine which have a simple toggle to compile for linux. Maybe sending a quick message to the developer to tick that box could help.
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Again, I have hardware that I am selecting an OS for. What do I care how it runs on HW I don’t have or whose fault it is?
You’re ramming a square peg into a circular hole and saying the experience is underwhelming 🤷
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Yeah, since most people have a circular hole just like me, I am telling them that Linux does not fit. What is strange about that? Especially in the context of the original comment I relied to about people moving to Linux from Windows due to end of support.
You can use Heroic Launcher to manage all your other games (including loose ones) and libraries (Epic, GOG, and Prime), all in one place. You shouldn’t ever really need to mess with Wine settings, unless you’re running something strange (like Red Alert 2, like you said. Old games don’t run well on modern Windows, so you’ll need to mess with things to get it working possibly.)
I will give it a try when I have time.
Honestly, RA2 feels like the exception that proves the rule since I probably spent more time tinkering with it on Windows and it run better on Linux.
Yeah, I tried Commandos a while ago and it just worked (it required a patch for modern resolutions though). Meanwhile on Windows it’s a mess. They may require some tinkering, but it’s not like the Windows experience is good either. It’s often better getting away from the mess that Windows created.
You can add any exe to steam library and set there to hae proton to run it. The hard ones are those that have a setup.exe, there you have to change the path to exe that is to be executed after you have run the setup exe using steam. The correct exe can be found in the corresponding c drive hidden deep in your home dotfiles.
I agree that games for windows are more easy to run on windows. Only fair comparison is, comparing it how windows handle running Linux games/software. One can say, yea, there is WSL. But you can do exactly the same on Linux using a windows VM and RDP to draw the program window directly into a window in your display manager.
Thanks for the tip.
I don’t really care about what is fair. I care how well the OS can do what I want it to do. I have never seen a Game that run on Linux but not on Windows, so this is irrelevant to me. Playing Windows games is one of my use-cases. If windows is better at it, I don’t really care why.
Bottles does often work, but my go to if often just to add them to Steam as a non-steam game, and let proton figure it out
Hmm, I didn’t realize that is an option. I will try when I have time.