This LPT doesn’t violate the community rule against illegal advice because in this purely hypothetical scenario the law means nothing

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    13 hours ago

    Or also on a related note, do not obey in advance. If they want to disallow peaceful protests, make them actually have to do it and don’t just assume they will. Make them have to choose which fights they really want to have. They still changed course on a total funding freeze after enough pushback and after getting blocked in the courts. There is still fight left. Cynicism and dooming is what they want you to have.

    Most of the power of authoritarianism is freely given. In times like these, individuals think ahead about what a more repressive government will want, and then offer themselves without being asked. A citizen who adapts in this way is teaching power what it can do.

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      Cynicism and dooming is what they want you to have.

      The blitz of EOs and other unlawful/questionable acts is exactly what was meant by the current administration’s “shock and awe” comment.

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    LPT: Vote Democrat next time instead of refusing cuz “I’m sick of voting for the lesser evil.”

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      Democrats have failed you. They’re just the sugarcoated version of republicans.

      LPT: demand to actually have a choice in your political system

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        They’re just the sugar-coated version of republicans, aside from all the ways that they’re better than the Republicans

        But they happen to slightly align on one issue regarding a conflict on the other side of the world, so I guess they really are the same after all

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      Protest voters did not meaningfully effect the results.

      The demographics that voted for biden but not for harris were older white men/women and hispanic men. Probably because of those groups having internalized patriarchal views and machismo culture.

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    lol “hypothetical”

    but yea, it’s important to clarify reality: the law means nothing to fascists. those same laws still apply to you.

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      When one particular party does, yes. The last time the Democrats had this much control they passed the civil rights act.

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          12 hours ago

          Man. They used to be the good guys. Now they worry about death threats and hide in their holes as the country is pillaged.

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          Democrats didn’t have control/majority over the Supreme Court, so there was at least check on power. No such checks on power exist for the GOP right now.

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          Not accurate. In 2021 the Supreme Court was split 6-3 in Republican favor.

          Also, the Senate was super split with 50 Republicans, 48 Democrats, and 2 Independent Senators (who, although they caucused with the Democrats, wouldn’t necessarily vote in lockstep) – and two of the Democrats (Manchin and Sinema) seemed more interested in obstructing things than in the party’s agenda.

          You’d have a better argument if you’d brought up the ACA, IMO. The numbers in Congress favored the Dems more in 2009-2011.

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      13 hours ago

      When they want to do things.

      Four years ago the other party had the same, but they didn’t want to do anything.

      Which depressed turnout, and allowed this to happen.

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        Four years ago the other party had the same

        As noted elsewhere in the thread, this is blatantly untrue.

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          9 hours ago

          As noted elsewhere in the thread,

          That was you’re own rambling unsourced interpretation…

          And now you’re acting like it’s a source?

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    This is very much the kind of statement that comes from a place of privilege. You have lived a privileged life and figure you have nothing to lose. You either don’t have or don’t care about loved ones who can face repercussions for your actions. Let alone “illegal” repercussions. Just ask anyone who has ever been part of a major protest about how cops follow “protocols” and so forth.

    He is a deeply complicated person (and may be the only “successful” free speech and 2nd amendment absolutionist in existence…) but Karl at InRangeTV posted a youtube video on a very similar topic a few months back (“Obvious ally or grey man”) that even touches on the idea of being privileged enough to act. He referenced a wonderful blog post by Margaret Killjoy on the same topic (https://margaretkilljoy.substack.com/p/we-are-the-strange-and-scary-things) where she also discusses, among other things, what it means to protest when you DO have things to lose. I strongly encourage people read her blog post and, if they can get past the gun nut side of things, seek out and watch Karl’s video.

    Personally? I have a long history of running my mouth off at people what need mouthing off. It has caused me no end of troubles in my life. I’ve been part of major protests, among other things. And… I increasingly am focusing on my own exit plan. Because you can protest the bad apples that ruin the bunch. You can get your voice out there and hopefully shift public opinion before the militarized police crack down on you. That doesn’t work when you are protesting those militarized police to begin with and we have a government that is increasingly making it clear they don’t care about those precious Rights that we thought protected us. Because I don’t know just how much I am personally willing to lose. But I do know that the line of how much I am willing to have my loved ones lose is a lot lower.

    And that is the reality and what we see every time there is mass unrest against a fascist regime. They don’t draw the line at you. They go after your family. Your neighbors. And they make it public so that people know to turn on their loved ones and neighbors to avoid repercussions.

    So I encourage everyone to educate themselves and make similar decisions.

    But “you have nothing to lose” is the kind of childish bullshit that people who watched too many harry potter movies spew.

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      It’s odd to describe people with nothing left to lose as being “privileged”. You literally don’t know the OP, or their reasons for feeling this way, but here you are judging them. No wonder you say that you running your mouth has caused problems in your life.

      Lots of people are socially isolated nowadays, with few if any friends. Lots of people are estranged from family. Lots of people deal with chronic health problems that ruin their quality of life. And so on. Many of these people feel like they have nothing left to lose, and that feeling is raw and real and coming from a place of pain and marginalization, not of privilege.

      It’s especially ironic that you’re saying this while talking about how you’re making an “exit plan”, which lots of people lack the resources to do.

      You are so out of touch it’s not even funny. The reason you don’t relate to this post isn’t because the OP’s stance is “privileged”, it’s because you have different conditions, beliefs, values, and priorities than they do. Get a grip.