ITT we can see hardcore gamurs that eat the shit from gamergate and gamergate 2: sweetbaby boogaloo without putting 2 and 2 together
To be fair, Sweet Baby Inc. censoring shit is a real problem, whereas the “first gamergate” was mad about Baldur’s Gate having transpeople in it when according to the “real gamers”
The game takes place in the Middle Ages and they didn’t have transpeople back then!
Problem
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Transpeople have existed since pre-history
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Baldur’s Gate does not take place in the middle ages, but rather during modern day in an alternate dimension in a thriving multiverse
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If transpeole existing is against the original vision of the game, then explain to me why the Girdle of Masculinity/Femininity and Edwin/Edwina exist. Or did you never actually play Baldur’s Gate and just wanted to be part of an outrage machine?
Source for SBI censoring games?
I thought the first gamergate was about
gatekeeping women away from gamesgames journalism. Imagine getting mad at trans people existing in a game where shapeshifting monsters and magic exist.It was, but Baldur’s Gate was the first game they had a beef with, and it was mostly because they made an Interquel to connect the first two games and one of the female characters was written out of character because a new writer NOT INVOLVED WITH THE ORIGINAL GAME OR ITS TEAM thought the old version of her was sexist and degrading…
The also included joke idle lines that referenced Gamergate and poked fun at it. “It’s all about bringing honor back to knighthood!” (ethics and journalism was the original quote)
While I do believe Gamergate did have some legitimate grievances and myself was part of the early movement (I was kicked out of a facebook group connected to it for “Being a fake girl gamer” who “Just pretends to like games to find a boyfriend”, which… kinda legitimized all the criticism flung its way for me)
The rewrite of the BG Character was a legitimate grievance, since it doesn’t matter how much you personally dislike how the character is written, you still need to be faithful to what came before it while working within the same continuity or you create a plot hole and alienate fans of the character.
However these two things were buried, because the introduction of a random NPC who could be asked about her background was a bigger outrage than these two things.
Other times Gamergate had a legitimate grievance -Game Journalists writing articles about liking Postal 2 as a game, but being in their words “being almost ashamed to admitting it” because it’s “Not politically correct enough”
-Kotaku writing articles that legitimately asked if beating a woman in a video game should legally be counted as rape
-Anita Sarkeesian blatantly lying in an effort to make a career out of demonizing video games like Jack Thompson before her (But as a Journalist instead of a Lawyer) (The lies are too numerous to list, but two that I caught her on personally was claiming that an oversexualized ad for Persona 4: Dancin’ All Night had been used as an official con badge for an event she was covering… It turned out to be a flier she attached to her Con ID just for the outrage machine… and there was a time she wrote off the Hitman franchise for being sexist as she claimed it “encouraged violence against women”, when in reality, the game actively penalizes you for doing anything but taking out your target as silently as possible, with as little collateral damage as possible, and the targets… while I’m not 100% comfortable saying they’re exclusively male, I legitimately can’t think of any female targets off the top of my head, and even then Hitman Targets typically have a backstory showing why they deserve a death from Agent 47 usually involving them making a decision that was financially profitable for them but cost the life of another)
Other times they did not have a legitimate grievance
-Lesbians exist! (Outer Worlds)
-Black people exist! (World of Warcraft)
-Fat people exist! (World of Warcraft)
-Visual Novels exist! (Oh don’t get them fucking started on Depression Quest, a game that literally doesn’t cost anything)
-Female Video Game Developers Exist!
-Transpeople exist! (Hogwarts Legacy, Baldur’s Gate, Guilty Gear, and for some reason the unreleased Fable reboot was accused of having, without evidence a trans protagonist… even though it’s a series largely based in customizing your own hero and deciding their moral compass)
-Female Ratchet’s boobs aren’t big enough, and she was designed by a transguy
-The New Fable has a protagonist that isn’t even implied to be trans, but they’re
-There’s a trans character
-Gail Simone doesn’t like being mansplained to about comic books she literally fucking wrote.
-One of two Optional Lead characters of an Assassin’s Creed game is female! (Which is even funnier considering it was accused of being an executive mandate… When interviews revealed that they originally wanted the game to ONLY have the female character, and her male rival who can ALSO be chosen as a player character… was the one added by Executive Mandate)
-Mortal Kombat isn’t sexy enough because the women have actual designs instead of just wearing underwear, even though they’re still just wearing underwear… and the original designs are literally unlockable (Even for this group I still don’t get it)
-Homosexuals exist (Mortal Kombat X - This one killed me because Kung Jin has one line that hints at him being gay and it’s so subtle I figured it was talking about a girl, the writer had to clarify… Yet people immediately screamed Kung jin was “rubbing the LGBT Lifestyle in people’s faces!”… This game literally has a scene in which an evil necromancer is being held hostage by the US Military to prevent the return of an Elder God who has threatened revenge on the Guardian Deity of Earth… that itself is interrupted by Johnny Cage and Sonya Blade complaining to each other about their failed marriage… meaning the HETEROSEXUAL UNION IS THE ONE BEING SHOVED IN MY FACE!)
-A black guy doesn’t like slavery (Mortal Kombat 11, no seriously they whined about Jax canonically disagreeing with America’s Institution of Slavery)
-Women with facial hair exist! (Horizon Zero Dawn)
-People called the movement’s founder anti-semetic and homophobic despite him being a gay jew… A gay jew that is constnatly saying homophobic and anti-semetic shit and claims to either be Catholic or Jewish depending on which suits him better, claimed to be married to a black man who is oddly absent from his life, and then “divorced him” and became an “ex-gay”
AND THE LIST GOES ON
Basically, GamerGate had SOME legitimate concerns, but, their bad takes far outnumbered the good takes and were mostly just “MINORITY IS IN A THING, THAT’S BAD!”, which hurt any legitimate cause they may have had, and makes it obvious the real goal was to push gamers to the Far Right
Sidenote: To whom it may concern, I actually hated when they made Bridget a transgirl in Guilty Gear. I mean Transpeople are based, but… given that her backstory is basically “Anime John Money Experience”, it rubs me entirely the wrong way and I liked her “femboi” incarnation a lot better. IT would have been cooler if her unnamed sibling in an ironic twist, turned out to be a transgirl, if they really wanted to appeal to Transgender Bridget fans. Having Bridget herself be trans is very uncomfortable when you remember that she was raised as a girl, told she was a girl, and made to present as such solely to try to fool the concept of fate.
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Gee these men-children are going to be awfully sad when there’s no one left to make their games for them anymore and they have nothing left to do but face the shitty reality they’ve created.
Um… The gaming industry did much, MUCH better before it was filled with activists.
before it was filled with activists.
and exactly when was this? lol
when did all the activists take over. Pong?
Colecovision?
Are you delusional? Or just naive? Open your eyes.
Such a moronic take based on absolutely nothing.
Great counter argument, lmaooo
It’s the only response required when you don’t even have any evidence, empirical or otherwise, to back up your moroinc claim.
Go away pigeon, you can’t play chess.
Lmao, coming from a neckbeard, that’s a positive.
You don’t even know how to speak in social gatherings yet feel powerful behind a keyboard.
There are plenty of record breaking games that have released while the industry has been “filled with activists.” Many of them are even about politics, like Helldivers 2.
Yes, there are good studios, when did I say there weren’t?
Stellar blade did amazingly. Good game, and no woke bs activists = profits
Stellar Blade had a stripper as a player character, and that itself created a meta dialogue about how every other video game doesn’t
Sounds like a “I liked Star Trek before it was woke” take.
Oh god, I “love” those people. Same as the guy who was pissed about how woke Rage Against the Machine had become. Like bruh… Seriously?!?
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Yeah, having a poc or queer character in your shitty video games is the biggest example activism since the Civil Rights Movement.
It’s more about the messaging. The mere presence of a POC or trans character isn’t bothersome to most people. But when that character comes with dialogue lines that make the political messaging obvious, then they’re no longer a character that happens to be non-White or trans; they’re a political prop inserted into a game to send a political message, and that can be quite irksome when all you’re trying to do is play a fantasy RPG and escape from the world for a bit, even if you actually agree with the message.
The mere presence of a POC or trans character isn’t bothersome to most people.
but some people LOSE THEIR ABSOLUTE SHIT over it lol.
fuck em, let them die angry.
A bad written character is a bad written character, their dialogue could be about candies and is still a bad written character. This argument is bullshit, bad case of confirmatory bias.
No, it’s not about the writing. It’s when’s a game feels like it’s preaching at you. Not the same problem at all.
Exactly. Don’t lecture us about being trans or etc.
We honestly don’t care. (Yes, a small percentage of people are actually bigots and hate gays/trans for being who they are). The rest of us just don’t want it shoved down our throats.
It’s like making a game and having the main character proclaiming: “look how straight I am! Wow I sure do love women! I’m so straight and anyone who isn’t should do pushups”.
The rest of us just don’t want it shoved down our throats.
and when you put storytelling of any kind that way, it tells me who you really are.
no one is shoving anything down your throat sweetie, you paid your money for a game before checking it out. that’s your mistake, not the devs.
You completely missed the point just so you can keep your ears and eyes closed.
Keep living in your bubble and being angry at the world, it sounds fun!
And yet, from the downvoting here and everywhere else this comes up, it’s clear: some people can’t take nuanced opinions on topics like this. If you object in any capacity, you’re the worst possible objector.
Because they’re all leftists/activists. They don’t know what sells games yet they scream and shout that it’s our fault that the games didn’t sell well
shrug The Right does pretty much the same thing. It’s all fucked.
Um… The gaming industry did much, MUCH better before it was filled with
activists.Capitalists. The word you’re looking for is capitalists.
There’s only one maybe two good video games not made by capitalists (Tetris and Disco Elysium).
You REALLY need to look up what happened with disco Elysium then come back and use it as an example.
That’s why it is “one or two”. The guys that made DE weren’t capitalists. The guys that published and sold DE were capitalists.
Regardless it’s an incredibly silly claim to suggest capitalism ruined video games when so few examples of good non-capitalist games exist
Sorry I misunderstood your stance; yes you’re absolutely right
Wrong. Gaming industry was doing fantastic before.
By what metric? Business is booming.
Yeah all those layoffs, mass studio closures, and over 15k game jobs lost(just in 24) sure do mean business is going great!
Yea yea, it’s all sweetbaby and DEI fault and not corporations being greedy hellholes that only worry about quarterly profits since forever. /s
Sbi needs to go back to the cave they crawled out of.
Since when were corporations NOT greedy? It’s hilarious you think that it’s only now that they got greedy, lmao
Please point out where I implied that corporations got greedy “only now”. Hint: i said “since forever”, the implication is that they were always shit. Then again, can’t expect much from you.
You don’t even understand what you said yourself, lmao
All of those are due to the drastic increase in jobs during covid. This is happening in many, many tech related careers. It is not because of inclusivity. Get your head out of your ass.
That’s a factor, but it’s not the only reason, jackass. Look at the games that failed and how they were backed by activists, which led to studio closures.
Ubisoft is mostly subsidized in Quebec by taxpayers, and they have their lowest profits ever because of activists as well.
Or maybe it’s because we’re sick of assassin’s creed n², you numpty. Go seek to confirm your biases elsewhere
Lmaooo Nothing to do with AC.
Star wars flopped as well.
I’m honestly surprised that Slack doesn’t have some kind of steganographic watermarking so that leaked screenshots can be traced back to the original user, given how many big companies use it for all their internal comms.
The techniques you’re thinking of are for documents sent by email or some such. You add innocuous whitespace or typos that are unique to each one, and send them individually. If one leaks, you can match it to the employee who received it. That doesn’t work for screenshots of Slack.
Well you could make it work, for example some random pattern in chat backgrounds that trace back to whoever is the user. That would still show up in a screenshot.
Slack or the OS would need to support it directly, and I don’t think either of those have it.
True, but that’s why the original comment seemed surprised, that a service like Slack doesn’t have this given how many corporations use it.
These companies can barely make the basics work on their apps, let alone all of this
Even so, they’re going find this person fast. ABK staff just has to cross reference all the participants of leaked meetings
If this person is like every other online chud they’ll find him before they finish cross referencing chat attendees.
I see you don’t use slack at work. Everyone is in every channel all the time for no reason. It’s madness.
I did use slack; we had general channels with tons of people and smaller channels/meeting rooms with 5-30 people. If it was a 5-30 channel they can be found.
Only if that channel was private. You don’t have to join a channel to be able to read its contents.
Oh what the fuck. I don’t believe Teams is that way.
Just one of the reasons that Teams is horrible to use!
The reason is that it’s great for collaboration and sharing info
Christ I got added to this for college, such a mess of an app. Really difficult to follow what is what on it.
It’s really not. Depends on how your structure it I suppose
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Ok well Im not an idiot, I have plenty of comms apps and that one died really quickly presumably because everyone’s experience was as boring and disjointed as mine
Hope they catch them and I hope those individuals lose their jobs.
Not good ennough. Doxxing should carry criminal charges.
As depressing as it is to ask, I feel I should kick off the brainstorm: Given that this personal information has been doxxed, is there anything that individuals could do to help the affected developers in any way?
Send them a check? Money always helps.
I’m surprised that people feel safe to discuss those things in a Slack of a company that creates American Imperialistic propaganda. It’s a certainty that crypto-fascists are among them, no matter how progressive the companies policies are. The stuff they make attracts right wingers.
gross
