• DarraignTheSane@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Isn’t that just the progressive left? As far as I know we don’t worship figureheads like the fascist right with their orange demigod.

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      1 year ago

      America’s “left” is pretty middle of the road if you compare the US to other first world nations.

      Things like free affordable / free university education, universal healthcare, consumer protection, and decent unemployment insurance are not controversial elsewhere. But in the US the right wing claims these boring ass ideas, that the rest of the modern world has embraced, are radical.

      If left wing idea were hot sauces, the GOP would think mayo was the Last Dab on Hot Ones.

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      1 year ago

      You can still respect and admire a figurehead without worshipping them. The difference is whether you bend definitions and rules to make exceptions of them when they deviate from expectations.

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        1 year ago

        I mean, the article linked is an AOC apologist quite literally bending “definitions and rules to make exceptions” for her after another columnist said she was “just a regular old Democrat now.”

        Branding the progressive left the “AOC Left” is also problematic and indicative of some hero worship on the author’s part.

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            1 year ago

            It absolutely is hero worship any time someone is put on a pedestal and their flaws are ignored.

            That’s what the author of the linked article has explicitly done. He waves away the fact that she consistently defers to Democratic Party leadership—except for occasional, “token gestures of resistance to solidify the illusion” that she’s a hard-line leftist—and then holds her up as the face of progressivism.

            If that’s not hero worship idk what is.

            Edit: spelling

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              1 year ago

              You are treating “differs from leadership” as if it is indisputably a flaw, and assuming that a person having a flaw means we should discount their achievements. Those oversights are just as fallacious as the supposed hero-worship you are accusing others of doing.

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                1 year ago

                You’re misunderstanding me (probably because I misspelled “defers” as “differs”).

                I’m saying she, as a proclaimed “progressive,” generally isn’t that progressive at all and generally defers to centrist, Democratic Party leaders: she does what they say rather than sticking to her ostensibly much more leftist guns.

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                    1 year ago

                    Ok, good for you, but that’s beside the point.

                    This article is reactionary, leftist apologetics for yet another “socialist” politician who’s being publicly called out because her political actions don’t really line up with her professed progressive views.

                    She’s clearly a decent enough politician, and yeah, she’s willing to compromise, but she’s also 1) disingenuously representing herself as something that she’s not, or 2) not self-aware enough to realize that she’s a social democrat and not a democratic socialist.

                    Either way, her behavior doesn’t line up with her professed leftism, but does increasingly align neatly with standard, neoliberal Democratic policy. She’s become a part of the establishment, and got there by riding the anti-establishment, socialist sentiment in young people. Not sure how that could be considering anything but problematic.