A bunch of losers went out and threw Nazi salutes in Alberta, Canada yesterday while holding racist signs.
Might be time for the media to stop calling them “hand gestures” and start reporting on this big fucking problem for what it is!
There is absolutely a cure for incels, yes, but nobody in the west would like it. So you’re kind of stuck with them.
The prostitution thing won’t work, though. I actually got fed up with a loud incel peripheral to a social circle I was part of and snapped, offering to hire him a hooker right then and there so he could STFU about how he’d never been laid.
Immediately he moved the goalposts and said he didn’t just want to get laid, he wanted a “genuine emotional relationship”. Saying this despite for the previous two hours only ever talking about sex, sex appeal, sexual characteristics, etc. with not a word spent on “genuine emotion”.
Some people just want to whine, and when they gather in groups they spiral destructively.
Let’s be real: it’s about control. They want sex on their terms, and paying for it doesn’t put them in control. They say things like “genuine human connection,” while desperately wanting a traditional, subservient woman that they can use to satisfy their needs.
I’d give em the “two wolves inside you” talk - like negativity and positivity. Gotta keep the moral lessons at preteen development levels with these sorts of folks.
What you said is all true, and there’s no excusing that level of rottenness, but I do think there’s a deeper component to it that they do not acknowledge.
They want to feel good about themselves, which at the core is not unreasonable, but they’ve built up this whole misogynistic mythology where they need a conventionally attractive woman - mind, body, and soul, in order to feel safe and happy.
But I’m convinced that even if they somehow stumbled into this unlikely relationship they would still be miserable.
I think even darker (as the response to @Glide@lemmy.ca indicates). When I see incel behaviour from a man, I make damned sure that man is always in my sight and at a distance. And I won’t accept any drink from him, nor any invitation to go somewhere else, even if it’s in the same building.
Yes that’s very wise. They’ve already shown you that they feel they might “deserve” a certain type of affection, so who knows what they feel entitled to.
Other men at these social settings also need to take a more active role in 1) detecting, and 2) deterring, incel adjacent behaviour.
There is absolutely a cure for incels, yes, but nobody in the west would like it. So you’re kind of stuck with them.
The prostitution thing won’t work, though. I actually got fed up with a loud incel peripheral to a social circle I was part of and snapped, offering to hire him a hooker right then and there so he could STFU about how he’d never been laid.
Immediately he moved the goalposts and said he didn’t just want to get laid, he wanted a “genuine emotional relationship”. Saying this despite for the previous two hours only ever talking about sex, sex appeal, sexual characteristics, etc. with not a word spent on “genuine emotion”.
Some people just want to whine, and when they gather in groups they spiral destructively.
Let’s be real: it’s about control. They want sex on their terms, and paying for it doesn’t put them in control. They say things like “genuine human connection,” while desperately wanting a traditional, subservient woman that they can use to satisfy their needs.
Well yes. It’s about sex and specifically forcing sex.
They’re wannabe rapists, in effect.
Suggest they should get a mail order bride then, or stop being such an unlikable cunt by raising their self-respect standards.
In my experience they seem to shut up when you suggest that.
I’d give em the “two wolves inside you” talk - like negativity and positivity. Gotta keep the moral lessons at preteen development levels with these sorts of folks.
What you said is all true, and there’s no excusing that level of rottenness, but I do think there’s a deeper component to it that they do not acknowledge.
They want to feel good about themselves, which at the core is not unreasonable, but they’ve built up this whole misogynistic mythology where they need a conventionally attractive woman - mind, body, and soul, in order to feel safe and happy.
But I’m convinced that even if they somehow stumbled into this unlikely relationship they would still be miserable.
I think even darker (as the response to @Glide@lemmy.ca indicates). When I see incel behaviour from a man, I make damned sure that man is always in my sight and at a distance. And I won’t accept any drink from him, nor any invitation to go somewhere else, even if it’s in the same building.
Yes that’s very wise. They’ve already shown you that they feel they might “deserve” a certain type of affection, so who knows what they feel entitled to.
Other men at these social settings also need to take a more active role in 1) detecting, and 2) deterring, incel adjacent behaviour.