Although personally in favor of Palestinian independence and critical of war crimes committed by Israel in its siege of Gaza, I attempted to explain in a back-and-forth discussion with a user (only afterwards learning was one of the community’s two moderators) why protest voting in the 2024 election to “punish” the democrats in favor of the republicans harmed the ultimate interest of reigning in Israeli violence in Palestine.
To further emphasize the damage caused by such a protest vote, I argued that not only is Palestine worse off with Trump elected instead of Harris, but as are a myriad of other social issues. The other user disagreed, arguing that Trump’s return to office facilitated the ceasefire, rather than my argument that Netanyahu deliberately delayed it to help Trump get elected.
After my fourth reply post in a reply chain that stemmed from my initial reply to the moderator’s comment, I was banned from !palestine@lemm.ee. Having at no point advocated in favor of the violence perpetuated by Israel in Gaza, I think the ban was unjustified, and demonstrates a bad precedent for maintaining echo chambers of moderator opinions, rather than communities that foster discussion.
You prolly right but I want to clarify a bit more.
Voting Trump is not a protest vote, you would be still voting the regime.
This ain’t about who is the president this is about owner class picking the president, it doesn’t matter to them who wins as long as this person will do their bidding.
Last time we had president get to pro pedon class, he got wacked like a CEO.
Carter was a decent dude but they cucked him pretty strong.
Ever since then we have been getting progressively more impotent cucks in the white house. Obedient lap dogs of the owner class.
Who would have thought that Obama was the end of hope…
Don’t mean to turn this thread into a mirrored version of the other one, since that’s not its purpose, but do at least want to clarify my point.
In the context of the single-issue voting behavior I was trying to argue against with my comments on the thread (to further compound the fact that voting for Trump only worsened the one issue that mattered to them), voting for Trump would still be a “protest vote”, given that their sole goal was to remove the democrats from office for not taking an anti-Israeli stance from the get go.
I agree wholeheartedly that such people supported Trump’s extremist policies in the process, given that—aside from not being pragmatic in recognizing that things would have been worse for Palestine had Trump been elected in 2020, and will still get worse, ceasefire or not—doing so disregards the millions that will suffer in the US and abroad more under a Trump presidency than would have under a Harris one.
Ultimately, I didn’t mind disagreeing with the moderator in the slightest (albeit not knowing they were the moderator at the time, only seeing an OP tag on their comments in the thread in Arctic), but think that being banned for doing so somewhat defeats the point of having a discussion thread in the first place.