Summary
New Secretary of State Marco Rubio froze most foreign aid grants for three months, reportedly shocking State Department officials.
The freeze affects military aid to Ukraine, Jordan, and Taiwan, while exempting aid to Egypt and Israel.
Staff were instructed to halt nearly all existing foreign assistance programs immediately.
The move aligns with Trump’s pledge to negotiate an end to the Russia-Ukraine war, as Russia gains ground in the conflict.
Rubio’s decision has raised concerns about the broader implications for U.S. foreign policy and global alliances.
I was told the genocide was going to stop.
The Trump plan to end genocide is to hurry up and get it over with.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jan/26/trump-resumes-sending-2000-pound-bombs-to-israel-undoing-biden-pause
Yes they are going to end all the wars by killing all Palestinians and Ukrainians. They were very clear on that.
If someone claims something happened on the fediverse without providing a link, they’re lying.
I have to say it so often it’s in my profile. I don’t believe I’ve ever been wrong.
I’m not going to provide a link, because half of the tankieverse was saying anyone voting Harris is voting genocide and you fucking know it. I of course was banned from the hexbear memes community of all places for suggesting that Trump IS going to be worse and that they all know it but don’t care because Trump is the more authoritarian, more pro-Putin choice.
Moving the goalposts. You don’t need to show that someone said, “Voting Harris is voting genocide” you need to find me someone who said, “If Trump wins, the genocide will stop,” which is the claim that was actually made by the person I replied to. Please refrain from that sort of rhetorical trickery.
Rhetorical trickery or hyperbole?
Anyway, okay, I’ll move the goalposts exactly to where they should be set:
There may or may not have been individuals claiming Trump’s better. I know there were, but nobody’s going to pay me what my time’s worth to look up 3 month old posts. So let’s say there weren’t. But there were a LOT of people saying that voting for Harris = voting for genocide, which in a two party system implies that you SHOULDN’T vote for Harris, which is functionally the same as voting for Trump.
There were a lot of people using the whole genocide thing to help Trump win the election, they just weren’t mostly claiming Trump would stop it, they sorta… implied it very indirectly.
Hyperbole is a form or rhetorical trickery.
Nothing else you said is relevant. I commented to point out a lie, or “hyperbole” if you want to call it that. If you want to debate something unrelated to that “hyperbole,” bring it up somewhere where it doesn’t serve as a deflection from a legitimate call-out.
If you take this position of, “Using hyperbole to exaggerate the other side’s position to make it easier to attack is perfectly fine,” it doesn’t exactly give me confidence that you’re going to engage in anything resembling good faith. This sort of attitude is unfortunately pervasive around here, which is why I have to use that first line so frequently.
No you weren’t.
Really?
I wasn’t told that voting against Harris or not voting was going to end the Palestine genocide!?
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their original comment was sarcastic, no need for the condescension.
And the comment section was a joke. Trump is a snake oil salesman and everyone’s buying it? i was making a joke not trying to be an asshole. I’m sorry I offended you
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No, no you weren’t. You were explicitly told that allowing and encouraging genocide would end the Harris/Biden campaign; and that America actively participating in genocide would cause the genocide to spread domestically; and that Dems refusing to differentiate themselves on this topic would disincentive voters.
You were not told, at any point, genocide would end with a trump admin. I get liberals tend to have that thing all right wingers have with their memory where you rewrite history to match your current beliefs, but you gotta try harder when you’re not in a right wing echo chamber like reddit or x.
So the leftists got mad and made the genocide worse?
It is totally a better choice then having liberals in power and working on getting better choices in the next election.
Tankies, not leftists.
Fuck them, I know several leftists and none of us want tankies among our ranks. I’ve got friends who are straight up pro abolishment of private property and THEY don’t even support authoritarians like Putin or Trump.
The important thing isn’t stopping genocide. The important thing is that leftists feel good about themselves.
The genocide is not worse. That’s not a thing. Genocide is genocide, it grows until it is stopped by force and the parties response are removed from power. Was Harris going to resign and start reforming the US to ensure foreign aid can never go to Israel as along as it’s a fascist ethnostate? No, her promise was to continue the genocide.
I’m sorry you’ll now have to do something. I’m sorry you’ll now suffer the same way you condemned others to suffer. I’m sorry you didn’t do more and accepted genocide as a necessary evil like all Nazi civilians that disagreed with Hitler did.
Maybe, just maybe, it’s be easier to admit you’re wrong and start fighting for the first time in your life.
Yeah, that’s not true. Genocides can and do get ramped up and down.
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I get it, you’re feeling guilty for your decisions that led to Trump winning and further escalating the genocide, but cope in reality.
Biden did not send troops to Israel, nor did he decide to “actively aid” the genocide. Removed for misinformation.
Admit I’m wrong and start working with the people who brought Trump into power to keep their hands clean?
Sounds as effective as praying.
Well it’s that or join in on the genocide, or be a victim. Those are your three choices. We know what liberals chose to do in Nazi Germany after appointing Hitler against the evil socialists and communists; so I’m not too shocked you would join with Trump instead of admitting your mistakes and start actually working against him.
I’m a firm believer in the legalization of all drugs knowing full well that it will cause people’s death and/or their descent into addiction, sex trafficking or slavery.
Does that make it the bad option?
America is still participating. Who’s the president ?
Reread, try again.
I’ll admit my leading question was facetious.
My point is that an action was taken against democrats on the topic of Gaza, and yet, the crisis and genocide continue. It was obvious this would happen if trump won, plus a slew of other impacts on at risk people around the world, beyond the admittedly unsatisfactory status quo of the Biden admin. So what societal good was done by not helping keep trump out?
There are two possibilities, either we cost her the election or we didn’t. If we didn’t, we worked towards building an actual alternative party at zero cost. If we did, then it’s even better, because we demonstrated that our support is needed to win.
The Democratic party, particularly the version of it that you believe in enabling, is both fundamentally unacceptable and doomed to failure. The Democrats have chosen to be the party of the status quo, and the status quo is declining and will continue to decline and unless and until they embrace change and an actual vision of the future, they are going to fail. Even if it were possible to “buy time,” that’s not a valid goal, because time is against us, every minute that passes is a minute where the rich get richer, the poor get poorer, the environment is damaged, and the right grows stronger. Only a fundamental shift in the political sphere and the proliferation of leftist narratives and explanations for the decline can possibly stem the fascist tide.
The Democrats can either change into what they need to be or they can be replaced, these are the only two paths forward where I don’t end up in a camp. Voting third party furthers both of those goals, while unconditional loyalty to the party only encourages them to continue on a doomed path.
You hope to bring about a new party with zero plan candidate or substance and in turn got additional people hurt.
Accelerationists are dreaming of a survivor fantasy where their perceived position or privledge will keep them or their family alive through the downfall, transition, and reconstruction of what’s next. Who’s to say what’s next isn’t 10x worse? You can’t.
Not caring about buying time is a privileged position, one that for example afghan refugees who had flights to the US this week and beyond sure would like a bit more of. Oh, whoops, the democrats needed to be taught a lesson so I guess it’s ok that they are abandoned now.
It’s all good and well to talk theory, but in real life harm reduction is actually helping people.
The societal good of destroying the US, since it’s clear the empire can no longer function without genocide. At that point, like all fascist empires, it needs to be destroyed.
The lesser evil option you’re advocating for was committed to genocide. There is no world where that’s the lesser evil human beings can accept
They enabled turbo genocide. The position is bankrupt as it assumes inaction is faultless and clean.
It’s funny to me, because these people criticizing us/me for “letting Trump win” are actually the ones sliding to the right. I guess liberals just aren’t used to believing in anything, so they see conviction as a failing because it’s too extreme for them, to stand for anything besides “nO tRuMp”. lol
Us liberals see that misplaced conviction is a bad thing and it’s an opportunity for education.