WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump is expected to lift the Biden administration's freeze on the supply of 2,000-pound bombs to Israel in his first days in office, Walla

Summary

Trump plans to lift the Biden administration’s freeze on supplying 2,000-pound bombs to Israel and reverse sanctions against Israeli settlers.

    • jordanlund@lemmy.worldMEnglish
      78·
      18 hours ago

      At no point did Biden ever, once, tell Israel to continue killing Palestinians. The support was provided for defense from Iran, full stop.

      October 25th, 2023: https://www.reuters.com/world/biden-criticizes-extremist-settlers-west-bank-2023-10-25/

      August 1st, 2024:
      https://www.jns.org/biden-reaffirms-support-for-israeli-self-defense-against-iran-in-call-with-netanyahu/

      November 26th, 2024:
      https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/biden-says-israel-has-right-to-self-defense-if-hezbollah-or-anyone-else-breaks-deal/

      What Israel chose to do with that support is on Israel, not Biden.

      Removed again for misinformation and temp banned.

      • Zaktor@sopuli.xyzEnglish
        6·
        18 hours ago

        What Israel chose to do with that support is on Israel, not Biden.

        This is an awfully subjective political opinion to be moderating on.

        • jordanlund@lemmy.worldMEnglish
          15·
          18 hours ago

          It’s not subjective. Biden’s opinion on Israel is matter of fact stated and quoted multiple times.

          Subjectively, I find it incredibly naive (especially for a President), but it’s not the same as Biden dropping the bombs himself which is how the “buh buh gEnOcIdE!” folks are playing it.

          In the end, we now have a President whose only opinion* is Israel didn’t commit the genocide fast enough.

          https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/04/politics/trump-israel-comments/index.html

          “They’ve got to finish what they started, and they’ve got to finish it fast, and we have to get on with life.”

          That’s what a pro-genocide President looks like.

          * That’s unfair, he’s also of the opinion that a ruined Gaza is a great beachfront development opportunity.

          https://youtu.be/gSoT22pCBGM

          • Zaktor@sopuli.xyzEnglish
            5·
            18 hours ago

            I quoted the subjective opinion. “I just gave the murderer a gun, and told him to only use it for legitimate self-defense” isn’t a situation where most people would consider the gun-giver to have no moral responsibility for a future killing. If you think it is, that’s an unusual but valid opinion, but calling that an objective fact is not true.

            • jordanlund@lemmy.worldMEnglish
              14·
              18 hours ago

              That doesn’t work as a matter of international law.

              For example, we have had multiple instances where we provided civil aid to a country only to have it confiscated and misappropriated by a corrupt government, that doesn’t mean we stop sending aid.

              • Zaktor@sopuli.xyzEnglish
                4·
                17 hours ago

                You’re not the Hague and law is not morality. Taking the stance that a “plz don’t use for genocide” note absolves the United States of responsibility is a subjective stance. You can carry on an argument for why you think that should be the case, but you shouldn’t be moderating because someone does not hold your view.

                And none of your examples apply in the least to sending weapons to Israel post invasion. They’re using our weapons to do genocide, the same people are in power, and the weapons are being used out in the open as official acts by the government.

                • jordanlund@lemmy.worldMEnglish
                  12·
                  17 hours ago

                  The fact of the matter is that Israel is (correctly) being blamed by the ICC, NOT America.

                  Not that it matters what the ICC says anyway, but that’s an entirely different problem.

                  The real problem is Israel doesn’t need our help exterminating Gazans, they never have. They didn’t need our help starting the blockade back in the 90s, they didn’t need our help killing people immediately following Oct. 7, and their snipers don’t need our help killing kids today in violation of the cease fire.

                  https://lemmy.world/post/24563168

                  The notion that it would have all stopped except for Biden’s aid is a child-like understanding of what’s been happening over there and the knee-jerk lemmy reaction of “US bad”.

                  • Zaktor@sopuli.xyzEnglish
                    5·
                    17 hours ago

                    This is a fine subjective argument you’re making. You keep coming back to this with your opinion on responsibility and not addressing that this is your opinion on a subjective subject (how responsibility is divided between an actor and someone who has supported them). There’s lots of interesting moral philosophy about the subject.

                    What it isn’t is objective truth. No amount of arguing is going to change that. You might theoretically even change my opinion, but it’s never going to become an objective truth that justifies moderating someone saying “Biden supported genocide” as misinformation.