• topherclay@lemmy.world
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    Why can’t more people be like this woman?

    Well, that seems to miss the point entirely right? Like if more people were exactly like this woman then they would still be just as anti as they are now. The only thing that made this woman be more compassionate was when it became a problem she dealt with herself.

    Either you’d have to ask “why can’t more people also deal with this problem personally?” or better yet

    “Why can’t more people be BETTER than this woman?”

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      This article is about how women deal with their own beliefs/morals/views against their own reality.

      She did it as gracefully as she could within those parameters.

      It would take you a year to find 10 people with the same ability to introspect and correct this type of behavior and conditioned thought, if you even found them.

      If people changing their views to accept more people is not a win, why convince them or attempt to in the first place?

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        You dont each them so they can claim to be a “good person”

        You teach them so they stop harrassing actual good people and stop teaching their children evil shit

        If you have to be personally effected to realise something is bad, you are a piece of shit. Hands down. With that reasoning altruism simply wouldnt exist.

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          |You dont each them so they can claim to be a “good person”

          You teach them so they stop harrassing actual good people and stop teaching their children evil shit

          It’s not about allowing them to claim it, it’s about having experiences that teach you empathy. You aren’t born with it and neither are they.

          You have had experiences that have led you to having empathy about that subject before they did. But guess what, if that person is able to recognize their faults and go forward with empathizing with that thing, they’re likely to apply that same thinking to other matters just like you did.

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      God forbid that people grow to change their views.

      She escaped a mindset she was taught when she was young. I was taught to hate gay folks, abortions, etc. Typical Christian upbringing. Then all my best friends in high school were queer and I was like “so what else was I taught incorrectly?”

      No one is born perfect. Glad she grew to change and now supports others in these tough situations.

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        It is good that she changed her belief, but if everyone was like her, we would need a lot more abortions to get people to change their mind.

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          Y’all are sticking onto abortion having to be the center of the behavior this woman exhibited. This same line of thinking could and should be applied to any other model of beliefs.

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                I’m not gay or trans but I still care about those people and those issues without needing to be directly affected by them.

                It IS good that she came around eventually but it is a far too common problem.

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                  Agreed. That doesn’t mean that it’s not learned though, some people are in hateful social structures their whole lives and can’t see an alternative until they do.

                  You and I just learned empathy earlier because our experiences led us down that path, just like this woman, only later on.

                  Another thing to point out, although it didn’t take this exact extreme experience for us to have empathy for women and their choices, it did for her. Now it has changed how she empathizes with everything else in her life. We both had something or multiple somethings in our lives that lead us to the same behavior.

                  There are plenty of people that will live under hate their whole lives and never change. If no one is there to celebrate the wins and the work people put in to change when needed, what’s the incentive when they’re still told they’re incorrect because they didn’t do it at the same time we did? Humans are social, and despite everyone saying it, everyone cares what each other thinks. It’s how we operate.

                  Agreed again, it’s way too common. I feel like we were on a real good streak for awhile, then with the emergence of social media misinfo campaigns and the rise of the alt right, we just got kneecapped back into the 50s.

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                  I’m just glad that after she realized she needed to change, she put in an extraordinary amount of effort to help others in the same situation that she was in. It’s not like she only cares about things that affect her; she simply didn’t realize she should care until she experienced it. Subtle difference, but it’s reflected in her behavior after she realized her mistake.