• Boomkop3@reddthat.com
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    There are arguments to be made either way, but normally you’d scope your variables in a way that the ones specific to a particular bit of code are not accessible from elsewhere.

    They’re arguing to do this:

    int field = 1;
    void may() {
       do(field);
    }
    
    int field = 3;
    void you() {
       do(field);
    }
    
    int field = 3;
    void be() {
       do(field);
    }
    
    int field = 7;
    void happy() {
       do(field);
    }
    

    rather than

    int field = 1;
    int field = 3;
    int field = 3;
    int field = 7;
    
    void may() {
       do(field);
    }
    void you() {
       do(field);
    }
    void be() {
       do(field);
    }
    void happy() {
       do(field);
    }
    

    A bad example of encapsulation would be:

    class AClass {
        private class HelloThere {
             int a = 1;
             int b = 3;
             int c = 3;
             int d = 7;
             void DoStuff(AClass self) {
                  Do(a, b);
             }
        }
        private HelloThere field = new();
        void World() {
            field.DoStuff(this);
        }
    }
    

    Of course, there is nuance here. Is this class encapsulating enough that it’s got a right to exist? That’ll depend on the situation.

    Also, c has local static variables. Depending on your use case, it might just be easier in c than in C# and similar.

    // a method with a state, horrid in some contexts, great in others
    void PrintCounter() {
        static int count = 0;
        Print(count);
        count += 1;
    }
    

    And just in case you’re still reading and curious:

    #region PingPong
        // hi! I am in a region, collapse me using your ide!
    #endregion
    
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        22 hours ago

        In most cases it’s a bad idea, yes.

        Also, have another look at that example code snippet though: that static variable is local to that function. It’s a weird feature in c.

        I’ve used it quite often in embedded code where a single variable was only for one function, and only for that one app/device. Wrapping it in a struct would’ve made the code needlessly more complex (that’s a code smell). And yet, these static locals are very easy to refactor to one local to a struct. May the situation change, that’s still an option.

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          that static variable is local to that function

          Yes I know how static storage durations work. It’s still global state, which is a code smell. Actually I’d go as far as to say global state is just bad practice, not just a smell. Occasionally it’s the only option, and it’s definitely the lazy option which I won’t claim to never take!

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            21 hours ago

            Aaand… you didn’t even bother to google it :/

            This is not about storage durations, and it’s local to a function

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              11 hours ago

              I don’t need to Google anything. I have 30 years experience writing C & C++.

              This is not about storage durations

              Yes it is.

              https://en.cppreference.com/w/c/language/storage_duration

              it’s local to a function

              Only the visibility is local. The data is still global state. You can call that function from anywhere and it will use the same state. That’s what global state means.

              https://softwareengineering.stackexchange.com/a/314983

              Some of the biggest issues with global state are that is makes testing difficult and it makes concurrent code more error-prone. Both of those are still true for locally scoped static variables.

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                7 hours ago

                Again, it’s an easy refactor to make it not global. There are cases where that extra abstraction work simply does not add value.

                With your background, you should know that