NTs aren’t running the world. Workaholic sociopaths are running the world.
NDs are becoming more and more socially accepted, and less willing to subjugate themselves. “Neurodivergent” seems to be a misnomer: NTs only seem to be “typical” when NDs closet themselves and try to emulate them.
My dad’s full side is ADHD/ASD. But the millennials/genZs have more severe cases than their uncles and great uncles did.
You can look at all the related disorders that are often comorbid like autoimmune, thyroid, MCAS, etc.
Look at conditions like Type1 diabetes which is growing ~3% per year! This isn’t just better diagnostics but explained by the stress diathesis model of disease interacting with our modern synthetic world.
That article doesn’t say what you seem to think it says. It only talks about an increase in diagnosed cases, which can be explained away by more frequent assessments, better awareness of symptoms, the loosening of diagnostic criteria in the DSM IV, and over-diagnosis to get children with other severe developmental disorders qualified for services. There are lots of reasons we know about that autism is being diagnosed more frequently, but the best you’re going to get on your hypothesis is “we don’t know.”
Environmental risk factors may also play a role, perhaps via complex gene-environment interactions, but no specific exposures with significant population effects are known
People also get a lot better at masking as they get older so younger people’s autism appears more severe than older people’s. Same is probably true for ADHD
Routine treatment for autism is applied behavior analysis. While ABA has its origins a hundred years ago, the field as it currently exists is very new, having really only developed in the last 25 years
Neither the greeks nor the romans were particularly shy about it and… Let’s call it non-christian ideas about sex have cropped up at various places and various times in history. That’s before the invention of plastics, so it got to be some good proof to be able to point a clear finger away from culture and towards plastics.
Under that age, too… Just turned 30 this year, still working my way around to doing research to find a provider to diagnose me. Which, with the nature of the condition that could take… a while, ha.
I see; I think we just had different definitions of “running the world.” I thought you meant literally the leaders of nations, but you meant setting the social conventions of society at large.
There was a recent Australian study that found a link between BPAs and autism, although I find it hard to believe there’s a 1-to-1 link, as autism was a thing before plastics were invented.
Society also had odd little release valves for neurodivergents which bizarrely enough could include parts of the military. Most of those are gone though in exchange at least we get treatment more readily than back then
Have you met these people IRL or online? Most of the people I’ve met online do fall into one of those two buckets, but almost nobody I’ve met IRL does.
I would assume this is selection bias before attributing it to some other thing. The kinds of circles you run in are going to heavily affect this.
I’m not sure the typical part is so typical after all. Given the size and complexity of our brains and the difference in DNA between us, I think more or less every family has their own ways of thinking and acting.
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NTs aren’t running the world. Workaholic sociopaths are running the world.
NDs are becoming more and more socially accepted, and less willing to subjugate themselves. “Neurodivergent” seems to be a misnomer: NTs only seem to be “typical” when NDs closet themselves and try to emulate them.
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The cases are on average more extreme now though.
My dad’s full side is ADHD/ASD. But the millennials/genZs have more severe cases than their uncles and great uncles did.
You can look at all the related disorders that are often comorbid like autoimmune, thyroid, MCAS, etc.
Look at conditions like Type1 diabetes which is growing ~3% per year! This isn’t just better diagnostics but explained by the stress diathesis model of disease interacting with our modern synthetic world.
This is based on your personal experience and not the evidence, which does not bear that out
Please present this evidence that rules what I said out.
Took 2s to find this
https://fortune.com/well/2023/04/19/rate-of-profound-autism-rising-not-as-fast-as-milder-cases/
That article doesn’t say what you seem to think it says. It only talks about an increase in diagnosed cases, which can be explained away by more frequent assessments, better awareness of symptoms, the loosening of diagnostic criteria in the DSM IV, and over-diagnosis to get children with other severe developmental disorders qualified for services. There are lots of reasons we know about that autism is being diagnosed more frequently, but the best you’re going to get on your hypothesis is “we don’t know.”
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-real-reasons-autism-rates-are-up-in-the-u-s/
https://www.annualreviews.org/content/journals/10.1146/annurev.publhealth.28.021406.144007
https://www.autismspeaks.org/autism-statistics-asd
People also get a lot better at masking as they get older so younger people’s autism appears more severe than older people’s. Same is probably true for ADHD
Routine treatment for autism, that would be something.
I agree with you though.
Routine treatment for autism is applied behavior analysis. While ABA has its origins a hundred years ago, the field as it currently exists is very new, having really only developed in the last 25 years
Good to know. I’ve never heard of it and it’s not a thing in my country.
It’s not whether it existed or not, it’s the prevalence of it. Nothing wrong with it of course.
Neither the greeks nor the romans were particularly shy about it and… Let’s call it non-christian ideas about sex have cropped up at various places and various times in history. That’s before the invention of plastics, so it got to be some good proof to be able to point a clear finger away from culture and towards plastics.
Women with ADHD went so underdiagnosed that it’s considered an epidemic.
Women over the age of 35 were straight up not diagnosed because “girls don’t get ADHD.” So I do somewhat disagree with your premise.
Under that age, too… Just turned 30 this year, still working my way around to doing research to find a provider to diagnose me. Which, with the nature of the condition that could take… a while, ha.
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Unless you’re being sarcastic, this is absolutely not the case.
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I see; I think we just had different definitions of “running the world.” I thought you meant literally the leaders of nations, but you meant setting the social conventions of society at large.
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That’s how you optimize the oprhan crushing machine…
Surely nerodivergent person can appreciate a good optimization game?
Yeah, I wouldn’t call narcissists neurotypical.
it’ll probably be the ‘forever chemicals’ (e.g. pfas) but yea, same deal.
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There was a recent Australian study that found a link between BPAs and autism, although I find it hard to believe there’s a 1-to-1 link, as autism was a thing before plastics were invented.
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Society also had odd little release valves for neurodivergents which bizarrely enough could include parts of the military. Most of those are gone though in exchange at least we get treatment more readily than back then
Have you met these people IRL or online? Most of the people I’ve met online do fall into one of those two buckets, but almost nobody I’ve met IRL does.
I would assume this is selection bias before attributing it to some other thing. The kinds of circles you run in are going to heavily affect this.
I’m not sure the typical part is so typical after all. Given the size and complexity of our brains and the difference in DNA between us, I think more or less every family has their own ways of thinking and acting.